Post: Does the government have the right to say what you can/cannot put into your body?
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04-04-2013, 03:15 AM
#1
Jakes625
Guest
Now for the main question.. Does the government have a morally right say in what we can/can't put into our bodies? and is it just?
Voice your opinion.
Now for my input on this question. Personally I believe the government has no right saying what we can/can't put into our body. I believe it's completely immoral for them to do so. The reason for most of bans, illegalizations are for reports of abuse, public view of the substance, and the profit they can make on this. A lot of things which are legal I also disagree with being legal. Now I'm not saying lets do all the drugs we want, obviously they have potential to ruin lives but that is not always the case, but you can abuse anything, and most of legal chemicals are unjust and immoral. A couple examples of this are everyday things like deodorant, cough syrup, prescribed pills, diet soda, and hell even water. Any chemical can be abused, and it can be harmful. Deodorant can cause heart cancer, cough syrup contains a chemical called dextromythorphan hydrobromide which is a dissossiative similar to ketamine, and PCP. acetaminophen the active ingredient in asprin causes as much damage to your liver as 6 months of alcohol binging. (~ 500mg dosage). Diet Soda's fake sugar can cause cancer and heart failure, and you can overdose from drinking too much water. I mean these are threats we face everyday. In just our everyday products! Prescribed pills such as oxycodone, hydrocodone, adderal, lunesta, ambien, etc. are mostly different forms of amphetamines, opiates, opiods, which are btw (heroin, crack, coke, morphine). These are legal and prescribed to kids! They are very addictive and every year cause more overdoses than heroin, meth, and cocaine combined. This is a serious problem, now I have a problem with people using drugs which are addictive like amphetamines but I do believe they have the right to experiment with their own body. This is especially true when it comes to psychedelics such as hallucinogens. They have very low toxicity levels and cause almost physically no harm to the human body. Most of them actually mimic chemicals already made in the brain and which are used in everyday items such as dreaming, meditation, etc. So what about people who "get high and drive?". Well, yeah.. they should get punishments for their actions, it's not smart to be on the wheel and drink and drive but people should have the right to expand their consciousness and experiment with them. After all, what freedom do we really have if we can't explore our own consciousness? We don't have freedom of our own mind so what freedom do we really have at all? This is my intake on all of this, and I didn't really go into that much depth of my thoughts and I'm not trying to persuade you guys, I'm just saying be optimistic, or at least try too.
Post your opinions please, I'd like a good debate going here
04-05-2013, 02:15 AM
#20
Millz
Worth the Weight
Originally posted by 666
Will to be honest no because it's your body , your life..the government can't control you because it's your LIFE!!
Originally posted by Droxcy
It's your body, If someone wants to destroy it let them. If someone wants to take something let them take it.
Okay, fair enough. If you go by that logic, I can get high on cocaine and go shoot up the local mall because I was too stupid to know any better. If you want to take drugs, any and all healthcare costs should NOT be covered by ANY insurance plan/government healthcare programs. Sound fair? After all, if the government isn't tell you what to put into your body, you are therefore responsible enough to take care of yourself because the government doesn't have to take care of you.
Yes, the government has the right to say what we can and cannot put into our bodies. (I know SHOCKER coming from someone like me). But they have the right to do so TO AN EXTENT. Banning large sodas is preposterous as that is not going to cause people to go out of their minds and do things they wouldn't normally do. The government should realize that yes, certain drugs are not as dangerous as alcohol, and they deserve to be legalized. Drugs like marijuana should be legalized and taxed by the federal government.
Other drugs, like cocaine, heroin, meth etc. should NOT be legalized. These drugs are dangerous, and cause huge damage to the body. Not only that, but they end up affecting everyone. People who ingest these drugs are far more likely to commit violent crimes, and they DO end up affecting people around them. If everyone would be forced to lock their doors and do whatever the fuck they want in their own home, sure I'd be fine with legalizing these drugs. The problem is, that is not going to happen. These are very powerful drugs that make people depressed, unpredictable, and much more likely to commit crime, or other illegal activity. The last thing I need is Obama taking more of peoples guns away because some guy who smoke too much meth ran around shooting people at the local mall. Marijuana will not make you do things like that, which is why I'm okay with it.
TLDR; Drug users, if you don't want the government telling you what to do, you should not have the right to government healthcare and must pay for it yourself, since you chose to do this to yourself.
And honestly, let's be real here. Most drugs are bad. They might not kill you, but almost all of them have adverse affects that can harm the people around you.
04-05-2013, 02:49 AM
#21
Droxcy
Little One
Originally posted by Millz
Okay, fair enough. If you go by that logic, I can get high on cocaine and go shoot up the local mall because I was too stupid to know any better. If you want to take drugs, any and all healthcare costs should NOT be covered by ANY insurance plan/government healthcare programs. Sound fair? After all, if the government isn't tell you what to put into your body, you are therefore responsible enough to take care of yourself because the government doesn't have to take care of you.
Yes, the government has the right to say what we can and cannot put into our bodies. (I know SHOCKER coming from someone like me). But they have the right to do so TO AN EXTENT. Banning large sodas is preposterous as that is not going to cause people to go out of their minds and do things they wouldn't normally do. The government should realize that yes, certain drugs are not as dangerous as alcohol, and they deserve to be legalized. Drugs like marijuana should be legalized and taxed by the federal government.
Other drugs, like cocaine, heroin, meth etc. should NOT be legalized. These drugs are dangerous, and cause huge damage to the body. Not only that, but they end up affecting everyone. People who ingest these drugs are far more likely to commit violent crimes, and they DO end up affecting people around them. If everyone would be forced to lock their doors and do whatever the fuck they want in their own home, sure I'd be fine with legalizing these drugs. The problem is, that is not going to happen. These are very powerful drugs that make people depressed, unpredictable, and much more likely to commit crime, or other illegal activity. The last thing I need is Obama taking more of peoples guns away because some guy who smoke too much meth ran around shooting people at the local mall. Marijuana will not make you do things like that, which is why I'm okay with it.
TLDR; Drug users, if you don't want the government telling you what to do, you should not have the right to government healthcare and must pay for it yourself, since you chose to do this to yourself.
And honestly, let's be real here. Most drugs are bad. They might not kill you, but almost all of them have adverse affects that can harm the people around you.
Yes, the government has the right to say what we can and cannot put into our bodies. (I know SHOCKER coming from someone like me). But they have the right to do so TO AN EXTENT. Banning large sodas is preposterous as that is not going to cause people to go out of their minds and do things they wouldn't normally do. The government should realize that yes, certain drugs are not as dangerous as alcohol, and they deserve to be legalized. Drugs like marijuana should be legalized and taxed by the federal government.
Other drugs, like cocaine, heroin, meth etc. should NOT be legalized. These drugs are dangerous, and cause huge damage to the body. Not only that, but they end up affecting everyone. People who ingest these drugs are far more likely to commit violent crimes, and they DO end up affecting people around them. If everyone would be forced to lock their doors and do whatever the fuck they want in their own home, sure I'd be fine with legalizing these drugs. The problem is, that is not going to happen. These are very powerful drugs that make people depressed, unpredictable, and much more likely to commit crime, or other illegal activity. The last thing I need is Obama taking more of peoples guns away because some guy who smoke too much meth ran around shooting people at the local mall. Marijuana will not make you do things like that, which is why I'm okay with it.
TLDR; Drug users, if you don't want the government telling you what to do, you should not have the right to government healthcare and must pay for it yourself, since you chose to do this to yourself.
And honestly, let's be real here. Most drugs are bad. They might not kill you, but almost all of them have adverse affects that can harm the people around you.
Totally agree with you.
04-06-2013, 12:34 AM
#22
Keomo
Can’t trickshot me!
Originally posted by Millz
Okay, fair enough. If you go by that logic, I can get high on cocaine and go shoot up the local mall because I was too stupid to know any better. If you want to take drugs, any and all healthcare costs should NOT be covered by ANY insurance plan/government healthcare programs. Sound fair? After all, if the government isn't tell you what to put into your body, you are therefore responsible enough to take care of yourself because the government doesn't have to take care of you.
Yes, the government has the right to say what we can and cannot put into our bodies. (I know SHOCKER coming from someone like me). But they have the right to do so TO AN EXTENT. Banning large sodas is preposterous as that is not going to cause people to go out of their minds and do things they wouldn't normally do. The government should realize that yes, certain drugs are not as dangerous as alcohol, and they deserve to be legalized. Drugs like marijuana should be legalized and taxed by the federal government.
Other drugs, like cocaine, heroin, meth etc. should NOT be legalized. These drugs are dangerous, and cause huge damage to the body. Not only that, but they end up affecting everyone. People who ingest these drugs are far more likely to commit violent crimes, and they DO end up affecting people around them. If everyone would be forced to lock their doors and do whatever the fuck they want in their own home, sure I'd be fine with legalizing these drugs. The problem is, that is not going to happen. These are very powerful drugs that make people depressed, unpredictable, and much more likely to commit crime, or other illegal activity. The last thing I need is Obama taking more of peoples guns away because some guy who smoke too much meth ran around shooting people at the local mall. Marijuana will not make you do things like that, which is why I'm okay with it.
TLDR; Drug users, if you don't want the government telling you what to do, you should not have the right to government healthcare and must pay for it yourself, since you chose to do this to yourself.
And honestly, let's be real here. Most drugs are bad. They might not kill you, but almost all of them have adverse affects that can harm the people around you.
Yes, the government has the right to say what we can and cannot put into our bodies. (I know SHOCKER coming from someone like me). But they have the right to do so TO AN EXTENT. Banning large sodas is preposterous as that is not going to cause people to go out of their minds and do things they wouldn't normally do. The government should realize that yes, certain drugs are not as dangerous as alcohol, and they deserve to be legalized. Drugs like marijuana should be legalized and taxed by the federal government.
Other drugs, like cocaine, heroin, meth etc. should NOT be legalized. These drugs are dangerous, and cause huge damage to the body. Not only that, but they end up affecting everyone. People who ingest these drugs are far more likely to commit violent crimes, and they DO end up affecting people around them. If everyone would be forced to lock their doors and do whatever the fuck they want in their own home, sure I'd be fine with legalizing these drugs. The problem is, that is not going to happen. These are very powerful drugs that make people depressed, unpredictable, and much more likely to commit crime, or other illegal activity. The last thing I need is Obama taking more of peoples guns away because some guy who smoke too much meth ran around shooting people at the local mall. Marijuana will not make you do things like that, which is why I'm okay with it.
TLDR; Drug users, if you don't want the government telling you what to do, you should not have the right to government healthcare and must pay for it yourself, since you chose to do this to yourself.
And honestly, let's be real here. Most drugs are bad. They might not kill you, but almost all of them have adverse affects that can harm the people around you.
Weed should be legalized.
So money is made.
04-06-2013, 06:05 PM
#23
Jakes625
Guest
Millz what you have to realize is that companies and the government put shit into everyday things and orgs like FDA just ignore them. By your logic, healthcare shouldnt cover anything at all. It's all abused by humans and there really isnt an exception to this.. it's sad what society has come to really..
04-06-2013, 06:37 PM
#24
Hells
I'm Back...
Originally posted by Joey
I'm from england and our system is an absolute joke.. We pay tax for benefit scroungers who can't be arsed to get a job or have like 5-20 kids so they get enough benefits to never get a job again. Makes me sick to my stomach that does. Just recently the NHS paid £4,800 of the taxpayers money for some skanky benefit scrounger to have a boob job. England is out of control. America are 100% correct to not have a benefit system...
I know this is off topic.. but this just makes me so mad at how shit england is
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I know this is off topic.. but this just makes me so mad at how shit england is
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Obviously you know shit, why just blame the "benefit scroungers" ?
How about the bankers that got us into this mess, or the politicians that cost in wages and expenses?
Or the companies and rich fucks that avoid paying little or no tax?
What the welfare system costs us is minimal to what the 3 examples I've listed cost us.
On topic yes they government do have a right/duty to decide when it comes to substance abuse, most of you kids are thinking about weed which is pretty harmless but not completley, but what about crack, crystal meth, heroin? I've seen the damage and crimes commited by people that are addicted to these drugs so I'm all for the government telling us that these are illegal and have no place in society.
EDIT: If you are going to thumb my comment down after I quote you at least justify the thumbs down with a response
04-06-2013, 06:55 PM
#25
SnD_Boosters
Who’s Jim Erased?
04-06-2013, 08:01 PM
#26
Joey Essex
Maggbot timeout!
Originally posted by Hells
Obviously you know shit, why just blame the "benefit scroungers" ?
How about the bankers that got us into this mess, or the politicians that cost in wages and expenses?
Or the companies and rich fucks that avoid paying little or no tax?
What the welfare system costs us is minimal to what the 3 examples I've listed cost us.
On topic yes they government do have a right/duty to decide when it comes to substance abuse, most of you kids are thinking about weed which is pretty harmless but not completley, but what about crack, crystal meth, heroin? I've seen the damage and crimes commited by people that are addicted to these drugs so I'm all for the government telling us that these are illegal and have no place in society.
EDIT: If you are going to thumb my comment down after I quote you at least justify the thumbs down with a response
How about the bankers that got us into this mess, or the politicians that cost in wages and expenses?
Or the companies and rich fucks that avoid paying little or no tax?
What the welfare system costs us is minimal to what the 3 examples I've listed cost us.
On topic yes they government do have a right/duty to decide when it comes to substance abuse, most of you kids are thinking about weed which is pretty harmless but not completley, but what about crack, crystal meth, heroin? I've seen the damage and crimes commited by people that are addicted to these drugs so I'm all for the government telling us that these are illegal and have no place in society.
EDIT: If you are going to thumb my comment down after I quote you at least justify the thumbs down with a response
Probably cause you're a dirty benefit scrounger too.. get a job you scrounger. Everyone on benefits need a reality check the fat lazy fuckers costing us millions
04-06-2013, 08:09 PM
#27
CronicImpulse
Hurah!
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