Post: Does the government have the right to say what you can/cannot put into your body?
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04-04-2013, 03:15 AM
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Jakes625
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Now for the main question.. Does the government have a morally right say in what we can/can't put into our bodies? and is it just?
Voice your opinion.
Now for my input on this question. Personally I believe the government has no right saying what we can/can't put into our body. I believe it's completely immoral for them to do so. The reason for most of bans, illegalizations are for reports of abuse, public view of the substance, and the profit they can make on this. A lot of things which are legal I also disagree with being legal. Now I'm not saying lets do all the drugs we want, obviously they have potential to ruin lives but that is not always the case, but you can abuse anything, and most of legal chemicals are unjust and immoral. A couple examples of this are everyday things like deodorant, cough syrup, prescribed pills, diet soda, and hell even water. Any chemical can be abused, and it can be harmful. Deodorant can cause heart cancer, cough syrup contains a chemical called dextromythorphan hydrobromide which is a dissossiative similar to ketamine, and PCP. acetaminophen the active ingredient in asprin causes as much damage to your liver as 6 months of alcohol binging. (~ 500mg dosage). Diet Soda's fake sugar can cause cancer and heart failure, and you can overdose from drinking too much water. I mean these are threats we face everyday. In just our everyday products! Prescribed pills such as oxycodone, hydrocodone, adderal, lunesta, ambien, etc. are mostly different forms of amphetamines, opiates, opiods, which are btw (heroin, crack, coke, morphine). These are legal and prescribed to kids! They are very addictive and every year cause more overdoses than heroin, meth, and cocaine combined. This is a serious problem, now I have a problem with people using drugs which are addictive like amphetamines but I do believe they have the right to experiment with their own body. This is especially true when it comes to psychedelics such as hallucinogens. They have very low toxicity levels and cause almost physically no harm to the human body. Most of them actually mimic chemicals already made in the brain and which are used in everyday items such as dreaming, meditation, etc. So what about people who "get high and drive?". Well, yeah.. they should get punishments for their actions, it's not smart to be on the wheel and drink and drive but people should have the right to expand their consciousness and experiment with them. After all, what freedom do we really have if we can't explore our own consciousness? We don't have freedom of our own mind so what freedom do we really have at all? This is my intake on all of this, and I didn't really go into that much depth of my thoughts and I'm not trying to persuade you guys, I'm just saying be optimistic, or at least try too.
Post your opinions please, I'd like a good debate going here
04-07-2013, 06:26 PM
#49
Originally posted by Jake625
But do guns kill people? does call of duty cause children to shoot up schools? do role models shape your sexuality? Now don't get me wrong I agree people should be punished for their actions, but should we really be blaming the substances which cause them? People act very differently on each drug. For example alcohol can causes drunken rage, where to some people are mellow and more social. It effects everyone differently so is it wrong to assume such a thing? Just a thought.
That's the point - people should be trusted until problems arise.
And that comes from someone who's never touched a drug, not even alcohol, and never intends to.
04-07-2013, 07:05 PM
#52
Mr Grumpy
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There's two sides to this. I mean yeah sure it's your body and you can do whatever you want etc. But what about kids? The amount of chemicals that are put into kids sweets and other stuff is disgustingly high. Let's say all chemicals where legalized and companies have free will to do whatever they want. Children are exposed to harmful chemicals which are imported through sweets by companies. Some children are also allergic to artificial flavorings and color, and some food colourings are banned because of its source. If this were legalized then we could be poisoning our children and even our selves. I believe that the govt are doing the best they can. I mean sure weed is not legal where I'm from. But it doesn't stop me from asking one of my boys for a que. (que = quarter of an ounce) and just smoke it with my friends. If weed was legal, then the govt also have the potential to mess around with weed creating synthetic weed. A type which I do not like, as it contains other stuff, and is unlikely to get you high. I know countries like sweden already prescribe synthetic weed to patients, and often hear stories of how it doesn't get you high due to the removal of a chemical which I forgot lol.
04-07-2013, 09:10 PM
#54
Jakes625
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Originally posted by Clutch
That's the point - people should be trusted until problems arise.
And that comes from someone who's never touched a drug, not even alcohol, and never intends to.
And that comes from someone who's never touched a drug, not even alcohol, and never intends to.
In that case do you also disagree with taking anti-depressants, and prescriptions? (like you in particular if you needed them, and you weren't going to die or anything) Just wondering
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Originally posted by Mr
There's two sides to this. I mean yeah sure it's your body and you can do whatever you want etc. But what about kids? The amount of chemicals that are put into kids sweets and other stuff is disgustingly high. Let's say all chemicals where legalized and companies have free will to do whatever they want. Children are exposed to harmful chemicals which are imported through sweets by companies. Some children are also allergic to artificial flavorings and color, and some food colourings are banned because of its source. If this were legalized then we could be poisoning our children and even our selves. I believe that the govt are doing the best they can. I mean sure weed is not legal where I'm from. But it doesn't stop me from asking one of my boys for a que. (que = quarter of an ounce) and just smoke it with my friends. If weed was legal, then the govt also have the potential to mess around with weed creating synthetic weed. A type which I do not like, as it contains other stuff, and is unlikely to get you high. I know countries like sweden already prescribe synthetic weed to patients, and often hear stories of how it doesn't get you high due to the removal of a chemical which I forgot lol.
Great point made, how would you feel about no restrictions but rather very intimidating warnings. ie: (contains peanuts, be careful if you are allergic) ?
04-07-2013, 10:44 PM
#55
Originally posted by Jake625
In that case do you also disagree with taking anti-depressants, and prescriptions? (like you in particular if you needed them, and you weren't going to die or anything
I don't disagree with drugs, I've just no interest in taking them and I don't like hanging around people when their mind is altered by whatever drug.
I take whatever medication I need. I rate my health higher than my personal dislike for drugs - I'd take marijuana or whatever else if I had a need to do so.
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