Originally posted by Justice
I'm lost. If you stay offline with CFW then how would you get banned???
You wouldn't, I think you misread my post
Originally posted by another user
At this point I just want PSN back.
Again... this has nothing to do with CFW, or Anon for that matter. People keep mixing malicious hackers up with homebrew hackers, like myself.
Originally posted by another user
"People" haven't been sued, Geohot was.
Google it, there's at least 3 other parties being sued by Sony as we speak(type).
Originally posted by another user
What he released opened the door for piracy and eventually people duplicating PSN IDs.
Again that's an unfortunate side-effect of opening a system up, but that's not Geohot's fault. He specifically tried not to allow piracy in his CFW the problem was others took over and furthered it to the point that piracy was enabled as simply as installing a backup manager.
Originally posted by another user
As a 3rd place console Sony HAD to do this. What developer would do business with Sony knowing that people can pirate and/or modify their games?
People pirate and modify games on the 360 & PC but I havn't heard a game developer threaten to quit supporting them yet...
Originally posted by another user
Sony should say "well we believe in consumer rights so potential piracy is worth it". And half the shit why buy has disclaimers basically limiting our rights anyway. Hell having 1 burned copy of a CD is legal but that lead to bootlegging. So all the consumer rights propaganda people spew goes out the window once a lot of people get their hands on it.
You see this as "consumer rights" but I see it for what it really is..."You took our hacker hero to court, and want to stop our CFW and/or piracy"
How do you like free speech? Everyday people, protesters, politicians you name it abuse that right every single day but nothing is done about it. Why? Because it's an integral right that we simply must have, if we didn't have it all hell would break loose. And the same goes for consumer's rights, if we didn't have that then companies would be merely renting something to you, to the point they could legally sell you something for $1000 then recall it the next day.
This issue goes much deeper than a little bit of piracy, and Sony simply don't care about that. As long as their profits remain at their best then they don't give a **** about us, the ones lining their pockets.
And on the subject of piracy, I really think game developers and console manufacturers should just shut up and stop harping on about it. Frankly, they should suck it up and accept that they simply cannot stop piracy. Piracy is rife in everything electronic, it's not exclusive to consoles yet nobody has really been damaged by it, primarily due to the fact anything you digitally pirate doesn't cost the publisher's a dime in physical value, so they have in actuality lost nothing.
I would predict roughly 99% of people pirating stuff online have no intention of paying for said stuff, take me as an example. I must have pirated a few thousand songs within the last few years, none of which I would have paid my money for not only because I disagree with the pricing structure but also because I simply couldn't afford them. And you know, anything I consider fairly priced and/or just amazing I pay for. I paid for Minecraft, I paid for the latest Rise Against album and I paid for Premium right here on NGU.
And this is where the argument regarding piracy falls flat on it's head; the publishers and whoever else rarely lose any money at all as most downloads would never have been solid purchases had piracy not been an option.
So please stop moaning about CFW, it's fully within my rights to modify hardware I have legally purchased and provided I keep it offline(I do) I can do whatever I want with it. Oh and that's not just directed at you, that's directed toward Sony too. STFU and get on with it, if you spent as much time and money building proper security for your systems as you have suing people then we probably wouldn't even have CFW right now.
/rant