Post: Third Attack Planned
05-06-2011, 02:19 AM #1
iloveyou2
Little One
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An observer of the Internet Relay Chat channel used by the hackers told CNET today that a third major attack is planned this weekend against Sony's Web site. The people involved plan to publicize all or some of the information they are able to copy from Sony's servers, which could include customer names, credit card numbers, and addresses, according to the source. The hackers claim they currently have access to some of Sony's servers.
Should the planned attack succeed, it would be the latest blow in a series of devastating security breaches of Sony's servers over the past month. The failure of Sony's server security has ignited investigations by the FBI, the Department of Justice, Congress, and the New York State Attorney General, a well as data security and privacy authorities in the U.K., Canada, and Taiwan.


Several weeks ago the hacker group known as Anonymous targeted several Sony Web sites, including Sony.com and SonyStyle.com, with a distributed denial-of-service (DDoS) attack in retaliation for what its members saw as Sony's unfair legal action against hacker George Hotz. Two weeks ago Sony's PlayStation Network, along with its Qriocity service and Sony Online, were the target of an attack that exposed the personal information of more than 100 million Sony customers. Sony was forced to shut down PSN, Qriocity, and Sony Online, and is currently working to bring them back online after rebuilding the security of its servers.


Sony says it doesn't know who orchestrated what it's calling a "highly sophisticated, planned" attack, but it has dropped hints that the group Anonymous is involved. Kazuo Hirai, chairman of Sony Computer Entertainment, told a Congressional subcommittee in a letter yesterday that the intruders on its servers planted a file named "Anonymous" containing the statement "We are Legion," part of the group's tagline.


Anonymous issued a statement yesterday denying it was involved in the PSN breach. "While we are a distributed and decentralized group, our 'leadership' does not condone credit card theft," the statement said.
Now it seems the same group of hackers that was able to infiltrate the PSN servers is planning to hit back against Sony.
Sony did not immediately respond to a request for comment.


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I AM SERIOUSLY TIRED OF THESE ****ING NEWBS. IDC WTF THEY WANT BUT IF IT INVOLVES ME NOT ENJOYING MY PS3'S ONLINE FEATURES THEN THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MORE THAN JUST SONY. THEY NEED TO ROT IN PRISON WATCHING GAY PORN
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05-06-2011, 01:00 PM #47
hakulaku2012
Do a barrel roll!
Oh no I want my psn back cuz I have no RL friends, oh screw those damn hackers... I hate them so much they took away my precious psn, what I bunch of baby whiners on this thread. Go outside and make some friends already!
05-06-2011, 01:23 PM #48
Originally posted by maddmaxx93 View Post
So Microsoft is breaking the law everytime it locks up a computer running pirated Windows?


All they ever do is lock the OS(software), not the system(hardware). This means you can install another OS via your boot menu, whereas if Sony bricked your console you're down and out several hundred dollars. IOW, illegal.

Originally posted by another user
This CFW shit is all about piracy, and/or disrupting other people's online experience with bullshit cheats. I would guess that 95% of users installing CFW, do so for only those reasons, and no other.


I believe the percentage would be much lower than that, and yes cheaters and whatnot do come about because of CFW. The real issue here is the game developers' security, just look at Black Ops there's barely any hacks on there(MP) and that's with full access to the system. And in regards to piracy so what? Anything you pirate on PS3 can already be pirated on any PC in the entire world, it's just an unfortunate side-effect of having a system opened up.

Originally posted by another user
Sony does have the right to lock up your system to protect it's intellectual property, as well as that of it's developers. That is simply a legal fact, like it or not.


No they don't, that would be a blatant abuse of consumer's rights. All they can legally do is block your access to PSN, if they tried to brick CFW consoles they would be sued for billions(quite literally).

Originally posted by another user
Now let's get on to this other OS everybody has their collective panties in a knot over. I've owned a PS3 since shortly after it's release in the North America. I've never seen that function specifically advertised, let alone highly advertised as you people keep droning on about.


That's because all advertising of it stopped immediately once it was removed from the system, so of course you're not going to see it advertised anymore. And I doubt you'd remember if you saw it advertised a few years ago, unless of course you specifically bought the system for that purpose.

Originally posted by another user
It was removed to prevent intrusion into their system.


*COUGH* Our system. We paid for it the hardware is ours, otherwise we're essentially merely renting it from Sony.

Originally posted by another user
Now the backwards compatability they removed from my ancient fat PS3, that pissed me off a quite a bit. Again though, it's their right to modify their firmware as they see fit, it belongs to them, you only own a license to use it. I hate to break this to you, should the HD functionality (though in no way similar to this topic, as the PS3 is an entertainment system other OS was not a main selling point, only a bonus)become a threat to the companies security, Samsung could remove it. I'm not saying the way the law protects huge corporations to the point of making them untouchable is right, I'm just letting you know what actually is legal and what isn't.


Right but you're missing the point yet again, all they could legally do is remove the software that makes the HD or the backwards compatibility work. If they remotely broke the hardware yet again that's enormously against the law, and they'd get sued to near-bankruptcy. And this is where custom firmware comes in, it allows you to do whatever you like with your own legally purchased and owned hardware.

I understand if you hate cheaters on CoD and I understand if you stand strongly against piracy however claiming Sony have the legal right to remotely brick your system to an unrecoverable extent is an outright lie, and you know it(and if you don't, ask any lawyer).

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Originally posted by swingo1020 View Post
Consumer's rights my a$$, this is just getting plain pathetic. Just a bunch of nerdy kids/adults in their mom's basements with nothing to do but f--- things up for everyone. Consumer's rights...just a smoke screen to get people to support them or to justify why they would be doing it.


Without consumer's rights you don't essentially own anything you pay money for... how does that sound to you?
05-06-2011, 01:26 PM #49
Faggot Anonymous. **** off Sony, obviously fighting for people who JB their PS3's but also are making them mad. Think about it.
05-06-2011, 01:30 PM #50
lbalancel
Because YOLO
they better not or imma kill some anonomous peeps :FU:
05-06-2011, 01:32 PM #51
PlayDude77
Gym leader
Ffs, i hope these idiots rot in jail for the rest of their lives!
05-06-2011, 01:38 PM #52
gebapt
Vault dweller
I don't get the point why they are hacking Sony over and over.
I think what Geohot did wasen't 100% correct men.
But why should you attack a company over and over.

Gebapt,
05-06-2011, 01:39 PM #53
lbalancel
Because YOLO
An observer of the Internet Relay Chat channel used by the hackers told CNET today that a third major attack is planned this weekend against Sony’s Web site. The people involved plan to publicize all or some of the information they are able to copy from Sony’s servers, which could include customer names, credit card numbers, and addresses, according to the source. The hackers claim they currently have access to some of Sony’s servers.

this is bullshit
05-06-2011, 02:24 PM #54
maddmaxx93
Can’t trickshot me!
Holy shit Clutch, I can't be assed out to quote your entire post, and do a play by play. I suppose I should've phrased it differently. Of course they cannot legally damage your hardware, they do however have the right to lock you out of it. If you have the technical ability to reinstall the OFW at this point or not is on a user by user basis. Just as when MS locks you out of your PC,(hardware you own, not even produced by the same company doing the lock out) some users may not be able to get it fixed themselves. (believe it or not some repair people use less than legal software and operating systems) Now I have given a perfectly legal example of a corporation doing exactly what I am talking about, you on the other hand are just spewing your own opinions based on no legal facts at all.

As far as CFW goes, you do of course own your hardware. You however do not own the firmware attached to it. Tampering with the OFW and/or installing third party software is in direct violation of their iron clad TOS, which they can and do update frequently, and I'm willing to bet you've never read the entire thing. So they can indeed lock the firmware on your PS3 right the hell up, preventing you from accessing your hardware. You still own the hardware at this point, and are free to use it as a door stop, paper weight, or whatever else you choose to do with it. Accessing the hardware at that point would be impossible for the average user, but it is still legal.

My number on the reasons people install CFW are of course speculation. I am willing to bet one of my PS3s that despite all the claims of wanting it merely for the other OS, my numbers are damn close to accurate, give or take 10-15%. Take me for instance, my motivation for it is directly related to emulators. I'm a retro gaming nutjob. Now emulators are legal, though in a slightly gray area of the law. However the roms are pirated, plane and simple. If people are in love with Linux, they can simply install Virtual PC, or another box emulator and install it on their PC, where it will function as intended.

Sony has broken no consumer related laws by taking the actions they have taken. A huge number of users on the other hand, have violated the TOS they agreed to over and over again. I'm not saying removing the other OS was cool, or even morally correct. It was however completely within their rights, and in violation of none of ours as consumers.

After the recent attack, don't be at all surprised to see Sony take a much firmer stance against any and all hacking of their devices. I know my CFW PS3 will remain off the network, as it always has. Go ahead and sign yours on, don't be surprised if you can't access it at some point though. Now unless you can show me an actual example of you being able to do what you want, without consequence, this discussion is over on my end. I've clarified my point. Apparently you think a bricked HDD is always physically damaged, and beyond repair, when in fact most bricked HDDs can be fixed.
05-06-2011, 06:44 PM #55
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
Originally posted by Clutch


They have the right to ban you from PSN but nothing more than that, if they bricked your console they would get sued to **** as that's illegal.

And in the case of Sony removing Other OS they removed a heavily advertised feature in PS3 consoles, it's the same as a company like Samsung selling you a 1080p TV then removing high definition the very next day. No different as far as the law is concerned.


Actually if Sony took out the Blu Ray that would be like Samsung removing HD. OS is at best the fifth best feature PS3 has. This is my issue; for every "innocent" CFW user there are 5 using it for piracy. Getting a game free or cheap is WAY more beneficial than homebrew apps.

You have to understand the idea of 1 bad apple. For every 1 CFW offline user there are 5 trying to host lobbies and do other shit online. Geohot came claim his intent was to install OS and innocent emulators but the fact is people used that for piracy. So you think Sony should've left him alone based on his word? Sony (3rd place console) should've been cool with a guy releasing code that could cost them money? Or hurt their customers?

Sony should think about the few innocent hackers but forget about the majority of little Noobs using CFW to ruin MW2 or pirate games OR steal other users PSN? Wasn't there a way to duplicate someone's PSN?

I am not buying the consumer rights. Sony has to worry about the majority, not people fighting for OS.

Instead of seeking legal action against bootleggers it was easier to try and stop CFW as a whole. You can't trust people. Because of Youtube and forums like these any Noob can leech and run CFW and they make innocent hackers look bad.

You can't risk money and customers accounts just to appease the SMALL percentage of innocent hackers. It doesn't matter if Geohot's original intent for releasing code was to make the PS3 an 8 track, the end result was people having ability to pirate.

MW2 started with innocent prestige hacks but that turned into 70% of lobbies deranking you, instant killstreaks, godmodes, etc. So you should blame your fellow hackers for ****ing up a good thing. Most people just want backup games, they could give two shits about "rights". Buy a game, play a game. Simpler.

Its also funny how people have illegal music, movies, roms and games but the minute a company does something we talk about suing somebody lol.

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