MW2 was better for many, many reasons.

1) 99% good connection and extremely rare that I ended up with foreigners in my games. These days, I am playing against all sorts of fucking languages that I can't even understand - I can understand a fair bit of French and German and a tiny bit of Spanish, so fuck knows where these people are that i'm getting matched up with these days, but I would guess at Turkey. But i've ended up in matches with people from South fuckin' Africa! Is it really any wonder I lag?!

2) Hosting (not modding) gave me like a 0.00001 second advantage, often useless, but every once in every 1000 or so times, that 0.00001 second would save my life.

3) Whilst stabbing across the map with Commando was undoubtedly stupid, at least it worked! Since Black Ops 1 stabbing has become completely and utterly pointless because my knife seemingly goes straight through people and they just ignore it and it's like what the actual fuck? I've just butchered you mate. . . The problem could have been solved simply by reducing the range of the stab, or even just removing Commando but leaving the other aspects of the stab intact.

4) S& was the dogs bollocks on MW2, mostly because people played it properly and the maps allowed it. S& these days has become one big camp fest and you may as well set up a tent and go roast some fuckin' marshmellows on a bonfire whilst you wait for someone to actually change position.

The MW2 maps made it instant chaos because you had to be quick to avoid sniper fire if you were not a sniper yourself and it was a fast moving game mode where the planting the bomb was massively tactical, usually when you were last alive and there was one enemy left, you would plant the bomb purely to draw them out. These days, it's either all this rushing to the bomb and planting in 15 seconds, which is really boring, or someone picking up the bomb and camping in the same spot.

5) Having Ghost (or whatever they call it these days) as something you unlock at the last level is stupid. There should NEVER be a point in which you are not able to hide from UAVs and it should be a level 5 perk which is unlocked as soon as you can create your first class. Stealth is a HUGE part of the game and it's effectively been completely neutralised because there is so much UAV spam because people know if you're under a certain level you cannot hide and as the game has grown older and people gone up the levels, the spam has not subsided, people still totally overuse and rely on it.

6) Spawn points are once again horrendous in Black Ops 2. I don't recall ever having spawned in stupid places on MW2 with the exception of Demolition where you always spawned in the same 3 or 4 places, which is still the same but has now seemingly spread to other game modes. It is now sp predictable that you can literally yell out 'Spawn switch!' down your headset and your entire clan knows to instantly turn and head in the opposite direction.

7) I've had well in excess of 50 hard freezes on Black Ops 2 and it has barely improved despite the patches and installation of the textures. This never happened on MW2, EVER.

Partying up has been difficult on all games since MW2, particularly on both Black Ops games. Bsck in MW2, there was no sitting there for 15 minutes whilst it says 'reconnecting to party' and all this nonsense, it just worked. There was also no loss of party members who get stuck in the party, but don't get taken into the pre-game lobby with you and the rest of the clan, forcing you to back out.

9) On MW2 there was no lag compensation meaning that when I died and watched the killcam, it actually showed me what happened, not something completely different to what my screen had just shown me 5 seconds earlier.

10) On Black Ops 2, you can throw C4s across the map and detonate them in mid-air, which is ludicrous.

11) Quick-scoping was out of control on MW2, but if you were smart, you could cope with it. Now on BO2 it's not even quick scoping, it's no scoping half the time and thanks to aim-assist, it takes absolutely no fucking talent to do it.

12) The introduction of Scorestreaks has been a step forward overall I think, but it has created some really bullshit scenarios. For example, i'm on a streak which is a combination of say, objective point captures and kills and i'm like 50 points away from VTOL Warship or whatever my highest streak is, and some person who I just killed 5 seconds earlier spawns near an objective and instantly captures it, like on Hardpoint, and they have Hardline on and it instantly gives them one of them fucking exploding paper airplanes which flies across the map and wipes me out. It's like DAFUQ?! That's not right.

What I would like to see is a compromise where in which, like Assault and Support Package, where you choose an option of whether you are an objective based player, or a pure kills type of player. Then, depending on which you choose, you can decide within certain boundaries what weighting your kills and objective captures (or bomb plants or whatever) hold towards your scorestreaks. For example, you should be able to run as 50/50 up to 75%:25% and then, for example, given a 75% weighting towards objectives, you'd need 3 kills to achieve the same points as an objective capture or vice versa 3 objective captures to 1 kill.

Your point here is complete and utter bullshit. It makes no fuckin' difference what game you play, there are ALWAYS overrated Secondary weapons that can own a Primary weapon - MW2 = G18s, MW3 = FMG9s, BO2 = KAP-40.

The differences between a shotgun on a Primary and a Shotgun on a Secondary are huge for 2 reasons and the main one is why MW2 was so great.
1) On MW2, Shotguns being a Secondary weapon gave variety to the classes people chose. You could either have an overrated Shotgun or an overrated G18s, take your pick.

2) On MW2, you could go on some proper good rampages and enjoy full warfare, for example, on Favela in the buildings, you may want your Shotgun ready, but charging down the flanks, you want your Assault Rifle/Sniper/SMG at the ready.

These days, because I am not a KAP-40 knob head, I am basically left with 2 options when I run out of ammo in my Primary gun - First is committing suicide and the second is camp it out and hope I can keep killing people until someone finally drops another weapon that I like.

Funnily enough, one of the best tactics (except in S& for obvious reasons) is to actually commit suicide immediately at the start of the game and dropping your ammo in the process, then respawning and picking it up so you have the same amount of ammo you'd have if you had Scavenger . . .

Your point here is complete and utter bullshit. It makes no fuckin' difference what game you play, there are ALWAYS overrated Secondary weapons that can own a Primary weapon - MW2 = G18s, MW3 = FMG9s, BO2 = KAP-40.

The differences between a shotgun on a Primary and a Shotgun on a Secondary are huge for 2 reasons and the main one is why MW2 was so great.
1) On MW2, Shotguns being a Secondary weapon gave variety to the classes people chose. You could either have an overrated Shotgun or an overrated G18s, take your pick.

2) On MW2, you could go on some proper good rampages and enjoy full warfare, for example, on Favela in the buildings, you may want your Shotgun ready, but charging down the flanks, you want your Assault Rifle/Sniper/SMG at the ready.

These days, because I am not a KAP-40 knob head, I am basically left with 2 options when I run out of ammo in my Primary gun - First is committing suicide and the second is camp it out and hope I can keep killing people until someone finally drops another weapon that I like.

Funnily enough, one of the best tactics (except in S& for obvious reasons) is to actually commit suicide immediately at the start of the game and dropping your ammo in the process, then respawning and picking it up so you have the same amount of ammo you'd have if you had Scavenger . . .

You completely missed my point, and perhaps even strengthened it. >.>

OP pointed out how shit was super unbalanced on BO2 where shotguns can kill from "a mile away" and praising MW2 for it's balance as shotguns "won't kill from a mile away". I said that was not the case -- shotguns on MW2 were vastly superior to BO2 shotguns and adding the fact that they were secondaries makes it even more absurd. And you agreed with that with the overrated secondaries soliliquy you posted there.

Kap-40s? Nerfed with the latest patch.

While I understand how you may think MW2 is superior than BO2, using "balance" as a justification to that perspective is inappropriate for the lack of a better word.

And to Contributed, you should really just stop... your video proof of overpoweredness shotguns was a video of Elpresador going 23-23 using extreme sarcasm throughout his commentary.

Lol you just PUT HIM IN HIS PLACE. These kids never played Mw2 they are just new game bandwagons. OVOVO has NO clue what hes talking about lmao. Your first post I quoted it and put it in my thread. Such a great post. For a second I thought I was the only one in this forum that had common sense lol.

You should create a thread like this for the debate section. I would like to hear what people have to say about this topic. You'll get great responses on what people think seeing as you have equal number of groans to thanks. Therefore this will be a great debating topic as people have different perspectives and some agree yet others may disagree. It's just a suggestion!