Post: Why Mw2 is better then Black Ops 2
03-12-2013, 03:03 AM #1
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(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Host sucks on Black Ops 2- I think it just goes to show who the superior CoD makers are. It's amazing that taking 3 steps back had a much more exciting, free running game where if you died, you didn't feel so cheated - that you lost the gunfight fairly..

Modern Warfare 2

-Better maps
-Better flow
-Better hit detection
-Good story
-Well balanced
-Just a better game
-Pro Circuit was more competitive back then as to now

Black Ops 2

-Almost unplayable with lag
-Horrible hit detection
-Not great maps (New Maps are terrible)
-Biggest Connection Game Made
-Not a map in BO2 where you can cross the map without hitting a choke point.
-League play is cool
-Love how they took zombies to whole another level
-The whole objective thing is cool
-A lot of variety of guns you can use in competitive without having an unfair advantage.
-Ps3 frozed about 20 times total.


Fluidity: MW2
Weapons: MW2
Maps: MW2
Minigame: BOII (Zombies)
Playability: Mw2

Overall Mw2 is a way better game then BO II.


Originally posted by spudeeelad View Post
MW2 was better for many, many reasons.

1) 99% good connection and extremely rare that I ended up with foreigners in my games. These days, I am playing against all sorts of fucking languages that I can't even understand - I can understand a fair bit of French and German and a tiny bit of Spanish, so fuck knows where these people are that i'm getting matched up with these days, but I would guess at Turkey. But i've ended up in matches with people from South fuckin' Africa! Is it really any wonder I lag?!

2) Hosting (not modding) gave me like a 0.00001 second advantage, often useless, but every once in every 1000 or so times, that 0.00001 second would save my life.

3) Whilst stabbing across the map with Commando was undoubtedly stupid, at least it worked! Since Black Ops 1 stabbing has become completely and utterly pointless because my knife seemingly goes straight through people and they just ignore it and it's like what the actual fuck? I've just butchered you mate. . . The problem could have been solved simply by reducing the range of the stab, or even just removing Commando but leaving the other aspects of the stab intact.

4) S&Awesome face was the dogs bollocks on MW2, mostly because people played it properly and the maps allowed it. S&Awesome face these days has become one big camp fest and you may as well set up a tent and go roast some fuckin' marshmellows on a bonfire whilst you wait for someone to actually change position.

The MW2 maps made it instant chaos because you had to be quick to avoid sniper fire if you were not a sniper yourself and it was a fast moving game mode where the planting the bomb was massively tactical, usually when you were last alive and there was one enemy left, you would plant the bomb purely to draw them out. These days, it's either all this rushing to the bomb and planting in 15 seconds, which is really boring, or someone picking up the bomb and camping in the same spot.

5) Having Ghost (or whatever they call it these days) as something you unlock at the last level is stupid. There should NEVER be a point in which you are not able to hide from UAVs and it should be a level 5 perk which is unlocked as soon as you can create your first class. Stealth is a HUGE part of the game and it's effectively been completely neutralised because there is so much UAV spam because people know if you're under a certain level you cannot hide and as the game has grown older and people gone up the levels, the spam has not subsided, people still totally overuse and rely on it.

6) Spawn points are once again horrendous in Black Ops 2. I don't recall ever having spawned in stupid places on MW2 with the exception of Demolition where you always spawned in the same 3 or 4 places, which is still the same but has now seemingly spread to other game modes. It is now sp predictable that you can literally yell out 'Spawn switch!' down your headset and your entire clan knows to instantly turn and head in the opposite direction.

7) I've had well in excess of 50 hard freezes on Black Ops 2 and it has barely improved despite the patches and installation of the textures. This never happened on MW2, EVER.

Cool Man (aka Tustin) Partying up has been difficult on all games since MW2, particularly on both Black Ops games. Bsck in MW2, there was no sitting there for 15 minutes whilst it says 'reconnecting to party' and all this nonsense, it just worked. There was also no loss of party members who get stuck in the party, but don't get taken into the pre-game lobby with you and the rest of the clan, forcing you to back out.

9) On MW2 there was no lag compensation meaning that when I died and watched the killcam, it actually showed me what happened, not something completely different to what my screen had just shown me 5 seconds earlier.

10) On Black Ops 2, you can throw C4s across the map and detonate them in mid-air, which is ludicrous.

11) Quick-scoping was out of control on MW2, but if you were smart, you could cope with it. Now on BO2 it's not even quick scoping, it's no scoping half the time and thanks to aim-assist, it takes absolutely no fucking talent to do it.

12) The introduction of Scorestreaks has been a step forward overall I think, but it has created some really bullshit scenarios. For example, i'm on a streak which is a combination of say, objective point captures and kills and i'm like 50 points away from VTOL Warship or whatever my highest streak is, and some person who I just killed 5 seconds earlier spawns near an objective and instantly captures it, like on Hardpoint, and they have Hardline on and it instantly gives them one of them fucking exploding paper airplanes which flies across the map and wipes me out. It's like DAFUQ?! That's not right.

What I would like to see is a compromise where in which, like Assault and Support Package, where you choose an option of whether you are an objective based player, or a pure kills type of player. Then, depending on which you choose, you can decide within certain boundaries what weighting your kills and objective captures (or bomb plants or whatever) hold towards your scorestreaks. For example, you should be able to run as 50/50 up to 75%:25% and then, for example, given a 75% weighting towards objectives, you'd need 3 kills to achieve the same points as an objective capture or vice versa 3 objective captures to 1 kill.
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03-13-2013, 01:52 AM #29
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Originally posted by gtfomyface View Post
yeah im sure everyone who kills you is host :|


Of course. That's the only logical reason, correct?
03-13-2013, 01:54 AM #30
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Originally posted by Contributed View Post
I'm guessing you're one of those people that started playing COD when Mw3 came out and hopped on the TreyArch bandwagon.


If you're going to fairly bash a game while comparing it to another, you can't just list the pros for the
one you think is better and just the cons for the one you think is worse. Put out a fair analysis. Each
game has it's pros and cons.

Black Ops 2 is a cool game. So is MW2. Both are really fun and honestly both were really good for their time.
However, until I see a really well thought out post, you're gonna have to live with a groan from me.

Plus, this is the internet. Opinions on games don't matter because you'll never convince the other party to
sway towards the other side. :dumb:

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03-13-2013, 01:57 AM #31
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Originally posted by gtfomyface View Post
im guessing you're just bad at cod but a lil bit better in mw2 :|


Not really. I have a 2.47 k/d and 3.80 w/l (Not like that matters since stats don't mean anything), but my GB team was #3 2 seasons in a row for BO II. Also, I was master rank 1 the first season. Right now I'm like 8th master kind of stopped playing it because this kid has 25,000 points and hes just no lifeing my sub division.

Originally posted by SweatyMidgets View Post
I agree 100%, Mw2 is the best cod ( in my opinion ) Just fun to play lol Bo 2 is cool but it's not exciting, if mw2 wasn't hacked to shit by uav auto aim faggots i'd play that instead of bo 2



Thank you. 3 years from now BO II will be full of hackers and no one will care like Mw2 since the game will be old.

Originally posted by Chaz View Post
If you're going to fairly bash a game while comparing it to another, you can't just list the pros for the
one you think is better and just the cons for the one you think is worse. Put out a fair analysis. Each
game has it's pros and cons.

Black Ops 2 is a cool game. So is MW2. Both are really fun and honestly both were really good for their time.
However, until I see a really well thought out post, you're gonna have to live with a groan from me.

Plus, this is the internet. Opinions on games don't matter because you'll never convince the other party to
sway towards the other side. :dumb:



Done. I did list the pros in a comment, but I forgot to put them on the thread. Thank you.
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03-13-2013, 02:25 AM #32
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Stopped reading at MW2 well balanced.

Seriously? Blops2 has already had a couple of patches regarding balance issues; it took months for MW2 to even fix akimbo 1887s. Noob toobs are still not fixed after 3 years.

And "just a better game" as an argument?

Personally, I just think that people believe that MW2 is a better game because of the new stuff it brought to the MP metagame. Pro perks, more game modes, and just a general improvement in graphics and gameplay from the previous CoDs(WaW and MW1) just appealed to a large audience. Due to aging consoles, there really isn't that large of an improvement between each of the CoDs now, therefore making each seem more boring. Hopefully that will change with the next gen consoles though.
03-13-2013, 02:36 AM #33
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Originally posted by OVOXO
Stopped reading at MW2 well balanced.

Seriously? Blops2 has already had a couple of patches regarding balance issues; it took months for MW2 to even fix akimbo 1887s. Noob toobs are still not fixed after 3 years.

And "just a better game" as an argument?

Personally, I just think that people believe that MW2 is a better game because of the new stuff it brought to the MP metagame. Pro perks, more game modes, and just a general improvement in graphics and gameplay from the previous CoDs(WaW and MW1) just appealed to a large audience. Due to aging consoles, there really isn't that large of an improvement between each of the CoDs now, therefore making each seem more boring. Hopefully that will change with the next gen consoles though.


Oh REALLY? Did Mw2 ever freeze for you like BO II did? Did Mw2 have a bad as host change as BO II where the game just completely drops everytime a host changes. I didn't think so. Did Mw2 ever make you pay for shitty map packs and gay camos? Also, targeting recticles? Who the freak uses a targeting recticle lmao. BO II you seem to run into a choking point every corner you turn. Mw2 had much MORE balanced maps then BO II. Also, the shotguns and snipers are completely op'ed. League play noobs camp down in the 3rd hardpoint spot in HJ with Kap 40's and shotguns lol. When I mean balanced I mean that the shotguns couldn't kill you from a mile away and the snipers weren't so op'ed. Shock Charges are a also pretty stupid along with sensor grenades. Along with that, the hit detection is STRAIGHT GARBAGE. If I lost a gun fight in mw2, I can actually say I got killed FAIRLY. BO II is such an host dominance game compared to Mw2. If a whole team has full green bars while the other team has 3 yellow bars you are very likely to lose. (Until the green bars don't have common sense) If you know anything about Mw2 or did competitive you would know host did not mean shit as compared to BO II. Please don't say I'm completely bias because in my thread it clearly states pros about BO II(If you're going to make a counter-point argument on this comment)
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03-13-2013, 02:46 AM #34
Originally posted by Contributed View Post
Host sucks on Black Ops 2- I think it just goes to show who the superior CoD makers are. It's amazing that taking 3 steps back had a much more exciting, free running game where if you died, you didn't feel so cheated - that you lost the gunfight fairly..

Modern Warfare 2

-Better maps
-Better flow
-Better hit detection
-Good story
-Well balanced
-Just a better game
-Pro Circuit was more competitive back then as to now

Black Ops 2

-Almost unplayable with lag
-Horrible hit detection
-Not great maps (New Maps are terrible)
-Biggest Connection Game Made
-Not a map in BO2 where you can cross the map without hitting a choke point.
-League play is cool
-Love how they took zombies to whole another level
-The whole objective thing is cool
-A lot of variety of guns you can use in competitive without having an unfair advantage.


Fluidity: MW2
Weapons: MW2
Maps: MW2
Minigame: BOII (Zombies)
Playability: Mw2

Overall Mw2 is a way better game then BO II.


If you play on PS3 MW2 sucks dick :|

If I had a Xbox 360 with MW2 then maybe I'll change my mind about it...

for now mw2 sucks :(
03-13-2013, 02:49 AM #35
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Originally posted by Kazam
If you play on PS3 MW2 sucks dick :|

If I had a Xbox 360 with MW2 then maybe I'll change my mind about it...

for now mw2 sucks :(


Well yea obviously now it sucks. It's like 3 years old and Infinity War doesn't support COD anymore. So no life hackers come and invade the game. LoOK @ mE iM sO cOoL wITH mY mOdZ oN a dEAd gAmE. (What makes them get sleep at night) BO II will be the same way in 3 years.
Last edited by Contributed ; 03-13-2013 at 02:51 AM.
03-13-2013, 02:51 AM #36
Originally posted by Contributed View Post
Well yea obviously now it sucks. It's like 3 years old and Infinity War doesn't support COD anymore. So no life hackers come and invade the game. BO II will be the same way in 3 years.


BF3 for life :boss:
03-13-2013, 02:54 AM #37
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Originally posted by Kazam
BF3 for life :boss:


Not to sure about this. I played the game on Xbox and dropped a 40 bomb on my 2nd game lol. If it was a big on competitive I would probably say it's better then BO II.

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