Originally posted by Sexy
No matter what Science can hypothesize, Science will never be able to explain what everything came from.
What are you basing this off of?
Originally posted by another user
It had to start from something.
Why? What about a possibility of always existing?
Originally posted by another user
Sure, evolution can characterize how life evolved, but where did the initial cells come from?
1. That's not evolution's problem, evolution only deals with after life begins
2. Abiogenesis is currently a well thought theory
Originally posted by another user
Science says you can't make something from nothing, so who made that something?
How about it always existing?
Originally posted by another user
I believe God did.
Fine, who made God? Who/What the hell is God? So the only answer to a complex universe is a more complex deity?
Originally posted by another user
The universe, the origin of it, the origin of life; it's all his creation. I can't give proof, but you can't prove me wrong either.
The rainbows, the rain, the origin of green; it's all leprechauns' creation. I can't give proof, but you can't prove me wrong either. <-Sounds a little psychotic doesn't it?
Originally posted by another user
Religion has been around for 30,000 years. What else do you know of that's lasted this long?
Really? Longevity determines truth now? If that were true the pagans would have had it right.
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Originally posted by Sexy
God didn't come from anything, for God has always existed. He wouldn't be God if he was created.
Oh, so we have something that completely disregards the rules prior... ok
Originally posted by another user
To us, the notion of time is linear. One second follows the next, one minute is after another. We get older, not younger and we cannot repeat the minutes that have passed us by. We have all seen the time lines on charts: early time is on the left and later time is on the right. We see nations, people's lives, and plans mapped out on straight lines from left to right. We see a beginning and an end. But God is "beyond the chart." He has no beginning or end. He simply has always been.
Do you have any proof of this? The more and more you describe God the more and more fallible your argument becomes.
If I say I have a house, it's easy to accept for being a simple concept. My house is purple, a little more difficult because now your reaching out of the norm. My house has 5 stories, more and more out of the norm. My house glows in the dark... My point being that saying there is a God is another thing from going to describe Him/Her/It with no basis whatsoever
Originally posted by another user
Physics has shown that time is a property that is the result of the existence of matter. Time exists when matter exists. Time has even been called the fourth dimension. But God is not matter. In fact, God created matter. He created the universe. So, time began when God created the universe. Before that, God was simply existing and time had no meaning (except conceptually), no relation to Him. Therefore, to ask where God came from is to ask a question that cannot really be applied to God in the first place. Because time has no meaning with God in relation to who He is, eternity is also not something that can be absolutely related to God. God is even beyond eternity.
How can you believe in something like this without evidence? If I tell you I have a fire breathing 50 foot cat would you believe me, because you can't prove I don't?
People only take these ridiculous claims when dealing with religion for a couple reasons:
1. You have been taught/shown this all your life at a young age
2. You may have been brought up it
3. You are looking for something to maybe bring you up
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Originally posted by Jerseyy
He was without sin; however, he had to pay for the evil and sin of man. When Jesus died, he gave us all a second chance. Now, we don't have to perish in the fiery inferno of Hell. By giving our hearts and mind and soul to our Lord, we trade a life of sinning and evil for a life of living for God. This is called Salvation. Living for God, means to give up temptations of mere men. Live by the Holy Bible and for the Holy Bible! It may seem like a big science fiction story but it's real. When you feel God speaking to your heart, you will finally understand the truth. I used reject religion. But then I moved to a very religious community and my eyes were opened. If any of you have a chance to go on a Youth Church Camp, do not avoid it. Please go and give it a chance. It will change your life. It changed mine.
Yeah, ex-christian here. I also find it ironic only after being surrounded by a group do you decide to become part of that group.