Why?


Could post the same gif as J4H did above, but can't be arsed. So, what are you trying to say here?

So, you're saying you're not a christian, but you're catholic, WTF.

I believe in life after death and that we are only borrowing these bodies for the time being

Sorry about that i was on spring break but anyways I believe my religion Christianity is correct. First off you can not deny that there was no such thing as Jesus Christ was an actual person on this earth. What you believe he did is what you believe but my view he was the son of God and he died for us etc. Like I said before though I dont read the Bible for hours on end so basically. I think that any religion that believes that Jesus was the son of God is correct.

Actually you can. The only accounts of him and his miracles are in the Bible. Figures similar to him include Dionysus and Horus.


Generic Christian position


That has sooooo much in the open it's crazy. Also, doesn't take hours on end to read the Bible.

I think the real question is; If god does indeed exist still, where is he?
1. He exists out of space, and time in a different dimension, but cannot return because he lost a key or something.
2. He was here once before, and now dead. Religion is based on dead people.
3. This is the matrix.
4. God is dreaming we do not exist.
5. We created god so god could create us.
6. Paradoxes like you wouldn't believe. Thus the universe came to be. Pudding.
7. It is all about the dark gods, you humans are food.
8. Nietzsche was right, zombie invasion is nigh.
9. Something to do with aliens, Roswell, the Illuminati, masons, Egyptians, 2 forks 1 butter knife.
10. Some B movie monster.

There use to be a god, but he took an arrow to the knee.

I myself am an Atheist, but what you are saying is frankly stupid. It is a little something called FREE WILL that we practise over here in the civilised world. We can worship what we want, think how we want and believe what we want. Unless religion is used as a tool to manipulate or an excuse for anything, it is fine in my opinion.

I do not believe in any specific religion but I do believe that it's influence on humanity has and continues to be positive.
Not withstanding it's many flaws, it's use for political or military gains, or it's use to establish a power base for it's own reasons.

It's basic tenants that all humans are equal, that one should treat another as you would want to be treated, to have a willingness to forgive.
That there is hope of a better life.

These are all things, taught by most religions at the local level, that have allowed humanity to coexist through the millennia.

It helps establish a moral compass till one can find they're own way in the world and can offer hope to those without any, even if it is false.

Many in the world, in the past and present, are so poor and hopeless, that faith is the only thing that enables them to go on.

And faith in anything should not be allowed to be easily dislodged by ridicule.

Ehhhh.... yes and no. I acknowledge that many good events are done in the name of religion, and that many negative ones have ceased, but it still doesn't change the past ("has").


You mean the fact that many people think the second coming is going to happen in their life time has an influence :p


That is mainly a judeo-christian attitude. Hindus, and Buddhists (main other religions) have slightly different mindsets. Don't get me wrong, many will think what you stated, but not due to religion.




Once again, yes and no. I don't believe religion is required for people to coexist. People would find a way as we are social animals. We would find something to link us together.


I wouldn't use the word establish. You "borrow" your religions moral compass and perhaps make tweaks to it.


Once again, I'd have to disagree, but realize that some are strongly attached to faith. There are people who go through awful times, but don't rely on religion. Then there are also people who do rely on it.


Out of curiosity why not?

My problem is faith itself. Often it assures that it cannot be even shifted by putting up so many safeguards one can't touch the thought of changing it. That can be dangerous as it puts ideas that aren't necessarily "with the times" into people's heads.


Just to clear some things up. I am not anti-theist, but sometimes wonder what would be different of our world without religion (both possibly pos. and neg.).

It gives people false promises. It spreads propaganda about condoms in Africa of all places. It allows people to do despicable things and get away with them using a multitude of excuses(both morally and sometimes legally). It gives people a vain expectation of an afterlife, meaning they treasure their real life far less. It gives people a tool deemed acceptable by mainstream society for discriminating based on multiple attributes. I could go on and on...



Both Islam and Christianity are sexist and anyone suggesting otherwise is clearly very ignorant or cherry-picking. Not to mention the numerous other disgusting moral codes in both religions that are conveniently brushed aside by the average modern day religious person.

Hope of a better life? You mean hope of an afterlife they will most likely never get. The only goal this achieves is stopping them from making any real attempt at making their one genuine life better.



Humanity did just fine for a long time without religion. Then religion came along... the dark ages sucked, huh?



In adults, a basic level of intelligence and social understanding gives you your moral compass. In kids, good parenting is supremely more effective than a however many hundred or thousand years old book. Absolute morality is flawed anyway, do I even need to point out why?



"The fact that a believer can be happier than a sceptic is no more to the point than the fact a drunk man is often happier than a sober one." "Ignorance is bliss." There are multiple quotes like this that convey my point, I think, quite well.



I find great problem in this. What else in life do we allow not to be criticised or ridiculed with good reason? This just gives people a platform to develop huge societal double standards and give us the mess modern society is slowly but surely cleaning up now. And I noticed just before my reply page loaded that J4H made some good points on this also.

tl;dr- religion is nothing but a hindrance on society. The sooner it's gone, the better.

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Oh, so religion is never used as a political tool to suppress peoples rights, huh? I guess all those attacks against anyone non-male, non-white and non-straight by the church for all those centuries and even today never happen(s/ed) then? C'mon dude, way to miss the point.

I don't think any of us atheists here want to outlaw religion, merely put it in it's place i.e. no privileges, whether that be political, social or lawful, that any other such crazy, discriminatory and immoral organizations would get.