Oh, so religion is never used as a political tool to suppress peoples rights, huh? I guess all those attacks against anyone non-male, non-white and non-straight by the church for all those centuries and even today never happen(s/ed) then? C'mon dude, way to miss the point.

It gives people false promises. It spreads propaganda about condoms in Africa of all places. It allows people to do despicable things and get away with them using a multitude of excuses(both morally and sometimes legally). It gives people a vain expectation of an afterlife, meaning they treasure their real life far less. It gives people a tool deemed acceptable by mainstream society for discriminating based on multiple attributes. I could go on and on...



Both Islam and Christianity are sexist and anyone suggesting otherwise is clearly very ignorant or cherry-picking. Not to mention the numerous other disgusting moral codes in both religions that are conveniently brushed aside by the average modern day religious person.

Hope of a better life? You mean hope of an afterlife they will most likely never get. The only goal this achieves is stopping them from making any real attempt at making their one genuine life better.



Humanity did just fine for a long time without religion. Then religion came along... the dark ages sucked, huh?



In adults, a basic level of intelligence and social understanding gives you your moral compass. In kids, good parenting is supremely more effective than a however many hundred or thousand years old book. Absolute morality is flawed anyway, do I even need to point out why?



"The fact that a believer can be happier than a sceptic is no more to the point than the fact a drunk man is often happier than a sober one." "Ignorance is bliss." There are multiple quotes like this that convey my point, I think, quite well.



I find great problem in this. What else in life do we allow not to be criticised or ridiculed with good reason? This just gives people a platform to develop huge societal double standards and give us the mess modern society is slowly but surely cleaning up now. And I noticed just before my reply page loaded that J4H made some good points on this also.

tl;dr- religion is nothing but a hindrance on society. The sooner it's gone, the better.

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Oh, so religion is never used as a political tool to suppress peoples rights, huh? I guess all those attacks against anyone non-male, non-white and non-straight by the church for all those centuries and even today never happen(s/ed) then? C'mon dude, way to miss the point.

I don't think any of us atheists here want to outlaw religion, merely put it in it's place i.e. no privileges, whether that be political, social or lawful, that any other such crazy, discriminatory and immoral organizations would get.

I don't think Needalife was specifically referring to Christianity or any other major religion. Everything you said about religion is true, yet how are we as a people suppose to rid ourselves of an idea so damned old? It is too far ingrained in the culture I doubt it can easily be dislodged. Wars have not changed this, logic seems only to enrage both sides, yet it continues. I cannot think of one idea that can even begin to fix this, changing minds is one thing, hearts a completely different situation. Maybe if this life could be made better for all, the thought of an afterlife wouldn't be needed?

Lol.. Suppress peoples rights? Sure, maybe 200 years ago, but not now. If you really want to talk about how things were abused and suppressed in the past and bring them into the future, go ahead. Why don't we start with dismantling Religion because of medieval times, next we can go onto the military for the same reason, next lets abolish any sort of monarchy, and so on.

You can't base everything on events that occurred HUNDREDS of years ago, Religion is not used as a tool nowadays more than anything else is.

due largely to the Islamic religion

The reason the middle east is in the state is because many of the states haven't experienced the 'revolution' yet. They are still like what medieval Europe was, before countries in Europe had revolutions to overthrow their leaders.

It's as simple as outnumbering the religion in question and then deeming it socially unacceptable.

The number of atheists worldwide is on the rise largely due to the internet, I think in a few generations time there will be little of religion left compared to today..

Well I"m a muslim and I can prove it that im in the right religion

Everything Quran said was totally true and when Prophet Muhammad came and spread the Islam ,he mentions about there is a God in this world and God created everything in the universe and the Judgement day whether you go to heaven or hell .