(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); The thread that was the shining light of the last two debating sections(ugh, really?) that was God vs Fact has been trashed or something(ugh, again) so this thread is here to take the place of that one.

Some extremely basic terminology...

Theist: believes in a god(s).
Deist: believes in a god(s) that created the universe but subsequently abandoned it and/or believes that reason and observation of the natural world are sufficient to determine the existence of god(s).
Atheist: does not believe in a god(s).
Agnostic: does not claim to know if a god exists or believes that such knowledge cannot be known, depending on the definition. Typically when I personally use this label I'm referring to the former.
Gnostic: claims to know one way or the other if a god exists.

There are some more but that's the basics down. I'm an agnostic atheist. What are you and why?

Edit: Thanks to whichever mod/admin butchered the thread's title and poll. The poll now makes no sense whatsoever.

What does it matter if it's on a computer screen or from a book? It's all the same text.

[/quote]Its not lack of proof, Its people want to do whatever they want and not be accountable for the way they live. There is more proof for the Bible than anything in the world but people want to refute it because they say "oh if I believe in the Bible im gonna have to stop sinning and thats what I like to do" Not an evidence problem its a heart problem. Nuff said [/QUOTE]

Forgive me if I'm putting words into your mouth here, but it kinda looks like you're saying you're better than us because you believe the bible. Big judgement for a Christian don't you think?

Also, it's not because we don't want to stop sinning. Like any normal person, we all want to be the best people we can. You're judging everyone who doesn't believe the bible to be a sociopath, which obviously isn't true. Please try to respond to this rationally, none of that "Jesus is in your heart" bullshit.

I think people should be able to believe in whatever they choose to.. Science or god, its the same thing in the end: belief.

Thank you athiests and hardcore christians in this thread, you have given me a good chuckle from laughing at your stupidity. There is some genuine intelligence in this thread but "god" the ignorance and stubbornness is amazing.

Religion is dying but it will NEVER fully die out, people always want to belong and have some sort of reason to live and to look forward to living and dying, "god" pity those who pray to "him" asking for money or shit and thinking that they will get something.

Science is growing, pretty rapidly in fact, and believe it or not science is the way forward, step off the morale bandwagon for a second, if stemcell research cures diseases that kill 1000s how can you possibly disagree with it? It's just life, be happy you get to live and stop spending your life depressed about a child that could have been.

Also super hardcore people science created computers, not god so shouldn't you not use technology if you're so opposed to it? Luddites.

You have yet to prove the Resurrection to be false. You would have to be a sociopath if you cannot examine your own heart and take accountability for yourself. Im judging people who cannot put the time into doing research themselves instead of believing in armchair anthropology. So try and respond rationally

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I dont fear death yet I believe in "Religion"

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You gave me a good chuckle... God gave the idea to create technology yet we have abused the way it was given. Suppose (since im using your terms) science has failed you in everyway then where do you go. Haha Religion is dying haha marx gave that same hypothesis yet it never came true

The burden of proof is with you.



Instead of saying "your own heart", you need to be more specific. This isn't very conducive language for a debate.



You can't back this up. Preacher, there's a reason some people have given up replying to you and it's because you make baseless claims like this post after post after post. Please just stop.



Nowhere. Science is a method, not an ideology.



It may never fully die out, but it is most certainly approaching death in the sense of societal normality. Not only is disbelief rising* but it's also becoming societally acceptable to criticize religion. This is a big deal.

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So society tells you whatever to think? Because society accepts it then it is true? Do you even know what your own heart is.... let me put it this way you have already made up your mind correct? so in your heart the thing near your chest you have decided whatever proof there is for the existence of God you will ignore because in your heart it does fit your lifestyle is what you say. And the burden of proof is with you my friend. You seem to have knowledge so why cant you research the Resurrection of Christ. Thats the foundation of Christianity.... Is it that if you did your research you might actually believe there is a God. Ill start you off with a book to read if in your heart you want to know its called "Who moved the stone" by Frank Morrison. That guy is a very smart guy and probably would meet your standard of intelligent. Instead of conforming to what is socially acceptable try and find the truth yourself.

My opinions are much more heavily apart from that of the societal standard compared to most, especially given that most of society is theistic.

Yes I've made up my mind (for now - based on what I currently know), but I'm intellectually honest and am willing to change my mind, hence how I went from a theist to an atheist in the past.

You... wow. You still haven't defined my "heart" beyond it being the source of thoughts and feelings, which is funny because they actually originate in a place near the head called a brain.

And again you willfully ignore what the burden of proof actually is. Good job.

For roughly the tenth time, I give up with you.

Hahaha I gave you a book to read which you dont want to do. Ive showed you proof but you have answered your question you dont want to know because you have made up your mind and "think" you know what is true. Proof isnt what made you go from a theist to an atheist it was the heart. If youre intellectually honest with yourself you would know it was some experience that changed you rather than what you believe to be lack of proof. Honestly if you wanted to know the Bible you would do the research yourself but you dont because you think you know everything. I just dont want you to go to Hell when you die whether you believe it or not Good Job

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Jeremiah 17:9

The heart is deceitful above all things
and beyond cure.
Who can understand it?

Thats how I know its a heart issue

You know it's a heart issue because a book written by desert dwellers two thousand years ago made an analogous reference to it. Good job.