Post: God vs Science
02-05-2013, 10:02 PM #1
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Some extremely basic terminology...

Theist: believes in a god(s).
Deist: believes in a god(s) that created the universe but subsequently abandoned it and/or believes that reason and observation of the natural world are sufficient to determine the existence of god(s).
Atheist: does not believe in a god(s).
Agnostic: does not claim to know if a god exists or believes that such knowledge cannot be known, depending on the definition. Typically when I personally use this label I'm referring to the former.
Gnostic: claims to know one way or the other if a god exists.

There are some more but that's the basics down. I'm an agnostic atheist. What are you and why?

Edit: Thanks to whichever mod/admin butchered the thread's title and poll. The poll now makes no sense whatsoever.
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05-02-2013, 09:27 AM #218
johnw6619
Vault dweller
Originally posted by BrianCODE23 View Post
fuck you.



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05-15-2013, 06:34 AM #219
Just4Hax
"I will speak ill of
Originally posted by dapreacher23 View Post
Hahaha I gave you a book to read which you dont want to do. Ive showed you proof but you have answered your question you dont want to know because you have made up your mind and "think" you know what is true. Proof isnt what made you go from a theist to an atheist it was the heart. If youre intellectually honest with yourself you would know it was some experience that changed you rather than what you believe to be lack of proof. Honestly if you wanted to know the Bible you would do the research yourself but you dont because you think you know everything. I just dont want you to go to Hell when you die whether you believe it or not Good Job

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Jeremiah 17:9

The heart is deceitful above all things
and beyond cure.
Who can understand it?

Thats how I know its a heart issue Smile

Quick question if you don't mind. How is it rightful for a god, or God, to send someone to hell for simply not believing in Him/Her/It/Whatever? When you compare an unconscious decision that takes place within a set amount of time to an eternity of misery doesn't that punishment seem rather harsh?

I find it incredibly difficult to swallow a belief where nonbelievers are punished in such a horrific way. The punishment that the Bible sets forth is one that has never been seen before on earth. An everlasting torture.
05-17-2013, 01:59 PM #220
Pricey91
Professor of trollology
Originally posted by Just4Hax View Post
Quick question if you don't mind. How is it rightful for a god, or God, to send someone to hell for simply not believing in Him/Her/It/Whatever? When you compare an unconscious decision that takes place within a set amount of time to an eternity of misery doesn't that punishment seem rather harsh?

I find it incredibly difficult to swallow a belief where nonbelievers are punished in such a horrific way. The punishment that the Bible sets forth is one that has never been seen before on earth. An everlasting torture.


God seems to commit mass genocide on a whim, so giving people eternal punishment for not believing isn't really out of character.
05-17-2013, 10:09 PM #221
Life is all a test, my friends.

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Gosh , i've been reading some posts and some of you are so naive!
05-18-2013, 05:28 AM #222
dapreacher23
Climbing up the ladder
Originally posted by Just4Hax View Post
Quick question if you don't mind. How is it rightful for a god, or God, to send someone to hell for simply not believing in Him/Her/It/Whatever? When you compare an unconscious decision that takes place within a set amount of time to an eternity of misery doesn't that punishment seem rather harsh?

I find it incredibly difficult to swallow a belief where nonbelievers are punished in such a horrific way. The punishment that the Bible sets forth is one that has never been seen before on earth. An everlasting torture.


Heres the thing you have all the proof in the world that proves God exist. God set the law and He knows what is best. God doesnt want to see anyone go to Hell but because He is a just God He has to send you to Hell because He cannot violate His law. If you dont want to believe then that is your choice but you have to face the consequence simply because you choose to not want to accept God.

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Originally posted by Pricey91 View Post
God seems to commit mass genocide on a whim, so giving people eternal punishment for not believing isn't really out of character.


Im sorry sir but that is where you are wrong. To commit a mass genocide you have to morally choose to commit this crime.

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Originally posted by Smexeh View Post
Life is all a test, my friends.

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Gosh , i've been reading some posts and some of you are so naive!


You are correct life is a test and you can pass the test by choosing the right answer Smile
05-18-2013, 07:05 AM #223
Just4Hax
"I will speak ill of
Originally posted by dapreacher23 View Post
Heres the thing you have all the proof in the world that proves God exist. God set the law and He knows what is best. God doesnt want to see anyone go to Hell but because He is a just God He has to send you to Hell because He cannot violate His law. If you dont want to believe then that is your choice but you have to face the consequence simply because you choose to not want to accept God.

That's a fallacy though. If God is omnipotent then he can do anything, including not sending people to hell.
05-18-2013, 11:44 AM #224
Nighhu
Haxor!
Originally posted by Just4Hax View Post
Quick question if you don't mind. How is it rightful for a god, or God, to send someone to hell for simply not believing in Him/Her/It/Whatever? When you compare an unconscious decision that takes place within a set amount of time to an eternity of misery doesn't that punishment seem rather harsh?

I find it incredibly difficult to swallow a belief where nonbelievers are punished in such a horrific way. The punishment that the Bible sets forth is one that has never been seen before on earth. An everlasting torture.


I like to believe in a God, I like to pray when I'm depressed. I don't know if I pray because I believe God will answer my prayers or if I pray more as a meditation stress relief. I am a Catholic but by no means do I agree with everything the Church teaches. I agree a genuinely good person, maybe better then the best Catholic, should not go to hell just for the mere fact he chooses to not believe in a God. I think believing in God gives me more comfort the if I didn't believe in one.

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05-18-2013, 01:18 PM #225
Originally posted by Smexeh View Post
Life is all a test, my friends.

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Gosh , i've been reading some posts and some of you are so naive!


Judging by the first half of your post I assume the naive ones here are us atheists? Please, enlighten us.
05-27-2013, 04:26 AM #226
Originally posted by Satan
So what religion would you chose if you was theist? Because you say agnostic


Agnostic simply means that I don't claim to know whether a god exists or not. And given that I follow evidence, it's a bit of a dud question.

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