Post: Abortion.
02-06-2013, 04:08 PM #1
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03-30-2013, 09:06 PM #65
El Pistolero
Little One
Originally posted by Clutch
Sure, but these aren't babies, they're foetus'.


still no .(my opinion)
03-30-2013, 09:28 PM #66
Originally posted by GameExpert View Post
still no .(my opinion)


It would help if you elaborated.
03-30-2013, 10:00 PM #67
El Pistolero
Little One
but its life man
03-30-2013, 11:12 PM #68
GodDrinksPepsi
League Champion
Carry out pregnancy => send to foster care => Live life THE END
03-31-2013, 04:03 AM #69
dapreacher23
Climbing up the ladder
Originally posted by Clutch
My guess is that it's due to the assumption that the parent(s) were choosing to keep the child. Difficult one.


What if the mother was walking to the abortion clinic and the baby and her were killed by a drunk driver does he get charged for double murder? Plus you just called the fetus a "child" according to what you believe the parent isnt choosing to keep the child they are choosing to keep a fetus. I believe you think the mother is carrying a baby and not a fetus
03-31-2013, 11:47 AM #70
Originally posted by GameExpert View Post
but its life man


So are bacteria.

Originally posted by .
Carry out pregnancy => send to foster care => Live life THE END


Never get adopted due to overwhelming amount of other kids who've been put up for adoption -> be miserable -> come out at whatever age, miserable -> never go anywhere in life as you never had the opportunity to do so -> die miserable. The end?

I hate the assumption that more life is immediately a positive thing. Society is broken and we have near or over seven billion people now, stop telling people who'd otherwise have abortions to have kids.

Originally posted by dapreacher23 View Post
What if the mother was walking to the abortion clinic and the baby and her were killed by a drunk driver does he get charged for double murder? Plus you just called the fetus a "child" according to what you believe the parent isnt choosing to keep the child they are choosing to keep a fetus. I believe you think the mother is carrying a baby and not a fetus


If they're choosing to keep it, it's foetus but also a child to-be. If they're going to abort it, it's just a foetus.

Either way, a woman should have a right to an abortion over something that is in every literal sense of the term sucking the life out of her.
03-31-2013, 03:15 PM #71
Keomo
Can’t trickshot me!
Originally posted by Clutch
So are bacteria.



Never get adopted due to overwhelming amount of other kids who've been put up for adoption -> be miserable -> come out at whatever age, miserable -> never go anywhere in life as you never had the opportunity to do so -> die miserable. The end?

I hate the assumption that more life is immediately a positive thing. Society is broken and we have near or over seven billion people now, stop telling people who'd otherwise have abortions to have kids.



If they're choosing to keep it, it's foetus but also a child to-be. If they're going to abort it, it's just a foetus.

Either way, a woman should have a right to an abortion over something that is in every literal sense of the term sucking the life out of her.


Well, you arent dead yet so life cant be all that bad.

Hmm, Foster Care versus life? Someone should start a topic about that. Well, im pretty sure being alive cant be worse then being dead, and I'm also just about as sure that even a kid with no decent family can have a decent life regardless, it doesnt automatically make their life miserable, yes missed opportunities, but a missed opportunity happens at every corner on every decision that is made, some people have luck of the draw and some do not, the same with unborn babies and those that are born. Shitty family does not automatically equate to shitty life, because that would mean most of the population has a shitty life on a circle.

Yes, i am saying that they do not have to have sex unless they are prepared to have a child... so many ways to avoid having a kid nowadays its ridiculous. I was informing you that abortion would not even have to be done if the couple just made certain decisions to avoid having to make the harsh choice. But hey, lets all have as much sex as we want and abort as many children as we want on a large scale, lets all be immoral and go back on our words as a species, as people. Because "Yes we can".

I suppose we should also sell guns without a license since its available and we have the right to kill people as human beings at cost. But lets do all we can to put prices on the life of someone, because its pretty damn effective.
03-31-2013, 05:58 PM #72
Originally posted by Keomo View Post
Well, you arent dead yet so life cant be all that bad.


I was fortunate enough not to be raised in foster care.

Originally posted by another user
Hmm, Foster Care versus life? Someone should start a topic about that. Well, im pretty sure being alive cant be worse then being dead, and I'm also just about as sure that even a kid with no decent family can have a decent life regardless, it doesnt automatically make their life miserable, yes missed opportunities, but a missed opportunity happens at every corner on every decision that is made, some people have luck of the draw and some do not, the same with unborn babies and those that are born. Shitty family does not automatically equate to shitty life, because that would mean most of the population has a shitty life on a circle.


Sure, but a lot of them end up miserable. When there's already seven billion of us and you're trying to use this as an anti-abortion argument, enough is enough.

Originally posted by another user
Yes, i am saying that they do not have to have sex unless they are prepared to have a child... so many ways to avoid having a kid nowadays its ridiculous. I was informing you that abortion would not even have to be done if the couple just made certain decisions to avoid having to make the harsh choice. But hey, lets all have as much sex as we want and abort as many children as we want on a large scale, lets all be immoral and go back on our words as a species, as people. Because "Yes we can".


Well done for so spectacularly missing the point. If I deemed abortion immoral I wouldn't support it, but alas I do.

People shouldn't have to abstain from sex just because you have a problem with abortion. That's not how these things are supposed to work.

Originally posted by another user
I suppose we should also sell guns without a license since its available and we have the right to kill people as human beings at cost. But lets do all we can to put prices on the life of someone, because its pretty damn effective.


I... what? Killing a foetus who's forcefully sucking the life out of a mother > killing a human minding their own business.
03-31-2013, 06:39 PM #73
Keomo
Can’t trickshot me!
Originally posted by Clutch
I was fortunate enough not to be raised in foster care.



Sure, but a lot of them end up miserable. When there's already seven billion of us and you're trying to use this as an anti-abortion argument, enough is enough.



Well done for so spectacularly missing the point. If I deemed abortion immoral I wouldn't support it, but alas I do.

People shouldn't have to abstain from sex just because you have a problem with abortion. That's not how these things are supposed to work.



I... what? Killing a foetus who's forcefully sucking the life out of a mother > killing a human minding their own business.


Technically they are minding their own business, they just in the womb chillin like it ain't nothing.

No i didnt mean entirely abstain, i just meant be more mindful of who your having sex with and how much of it your having with that person/s.

Your argument is "Lets have as much sex as possible and not worry about the repercussions because we have abortion, and can always fall back on acting like i never became pregnant". All im saying is that in moderation abortion can be avoided and wont have to be used, but in some cases it will pop up and be favorable. But it shouldnt be spammed because you see, it wont benefit the population if the amount of sex someone has isnt properly maintained or regulated... then it would just be lots of broken homes/lives because of the absurd amount of kids being born and space being taken up, its just illogical to perform like this.

The kid doesnt have to be born, but it doesnt have to get to the point of abortion either... rapidly having children is anti productive in my opinion, and couples should be more mindful of the actions that they take. I never said anything about completely abstaining, just being mindful and aware.

Besides, there are people who have sex and don't use condoms... they literally just pull out. Condom's should be preferred though. Just because abortion is available doesn't mean people shouldn't be properly educated on stuff like ethics, theres a certain way you go about doing things, you cant just perform like a violin player who gets to play every note available, and then run back and fix a string that broke... it doesn't work like that, you have to take care of what you have in the best way possible. I wasn't talking about morals, just ethics. In fact if it wasn't for the progression that birth control and all this stuff has made, then the entire world would be having a miniature Africa all over am i right? Still that may be a bad example due to a high percentage of rape but thats not the point... just babies being born rapidly with no control over who gets to live or not... food shortages and lack of resources, that is a real hell.

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