Post: UK Politics Thread
03-13-2013, 09:00 PM #1
.James
Who’s Jim Erased?
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So yeah, talk about it here. Smile

If you don't know much about UK politics, we currently have a coalition government between the Tories & the Lib Dems (Tories didn't get the majority of votes). The four main parties are:

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UKIP - Eurosceptism, Libertarianism, Traditional Conservatism - You must login or register to view this content.

There's also parties such as BNP who are right wing, BNP in particular are very anti-immigration, SNP & Plaid Cymru who focus on independence for their constituent countries, as well as other parties such as the Green party who support British Republicanism
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05-20-2013, 09:32 PM #74
.James
Who’s Jim Erased?
:y:

Lol, will read about the marriage thing tomorrow and leave my reply later. I posted by accident xD
05-26-2013, 04:14 PM #75
ResistTheSun
In Flames Much?
Eric Pickles: Law 'couldn't have stopped Woolwich murder'
And
Theresa May set to revive 'snooper's charter'

¬_ ¬
Somebody needs to be slapped. Pointless knee jerk if it goes ahead.
05-26-2013, 04:42 PM #76
Theresa May really is a great example of a reactionary politician who's willing to put draconian measures in place under the guise of 'public safety'. Sick of hearing her nonsense on the news after every notable event.
05-30-2013, 05:56 PM #77
Liam
In my man cave
I love how the police were quick to arrest an 85 year old women who shouted outside of a Mosque yet they do nothing about the Islamic hate preachers who every day are promoting violent jihad which is systematically apart of their religion. When will the Government and police stop pussy footing around the issue of Islam and the chaos that it has and will continue to bring?

Woolwich terror suspect Michael Adebolajo encourages young Muslims to turn against Britain (Filmed 9/11 2009)
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POLICE yesterday rushed to the home of hate preacher Anjem Choudary — to protect him and his family.

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05-31-2013, 09:20 AM #78
ResistTheSun
In Flames Much?
Stupid question what do you want the Government to do about him?
05-31-2013, 10:30 AM #79
Liam
In my man cave
Originally posted by ResistTheSun View Post
Stupid question what do you want the Government to do about him?


If that was in response to me then your question itself is stupid unless you think it's completely acceptable for hate preachers to be allowed to teach muslims violence towards British soldiers in particular in the name of Jihad? All this happens behind mosque doors and in alot of universities yet you think this is completely acceptable? Not to mention these people are claiming of our social security system

But you're right what can the government do? for a start they could ignore the ECHR and kick any undesirables out of the country and face the rap later, alot like what Italy & France do. This country has went to complete shit because of the left in every single way possible, always stifling debate with keywords such as racist and fascist. People thank god are finally starting to realise & wake up.
05-31-2013, 11:10 AM #80
ResistTheSun
In Flames Much?
Originally posted by Liam View Post
If that was in response to me then your question itself is stupid unless you think it's completely acceptable for hate preachers to be allowed to teach muslims violence towards British soldiers in particular in the name of Jihad? All this happens behind mosque doors and in alot of universities yet you think this is completely acceptable? Not to mention these people are claiming of our social security system

But you're right what can the government do? for a start they could ignore the ECHR and kick any undesirables out of the country and face the rap later, alot like what Italy & France do. This country has went to complete shit because of the left in every single way possible, always stifling debate with keywords such as racist and fascist. People thank god are finally starting to realise & wake up.


It unacceptable behaviour.
Unacceptable to preach hate against him just like he does against people who have done him no wrong.
Also think it unacceptable the only way people come up with dealing with this is to deport people. He was born here incase people forget.
I rather have people inside of mosques making sure this sort of hate does not spread and rot. Is a disconnect between young muslims and older generations this needs to be fixed. Over people shouting at mosque doors, which is going to increase the feeling of being aliens and tension.
Don't think it wise to teach people violence against muslims is fine. Jihad has it meaning changed from what it means, it was changed to be used for violence causes.

If you think it wise to let him be killed by mobs which is likely to increase the risk of violence go ahead and think that.

Put him in prison and correct the rot he has caused.
05-31-2013, 02:31 PM #81
intense99
Save Point
Originally posted by ResistTheSun View Post
It unacceptable behaviour.
Unacceptable to preach hate against him just like he does against people who have done him no wrong.
Also think it unacceptable the only way people come up with dealing with this is to deport people. He was born here incase people forget.
I rather have people inside of mosques making sure this sort of hate does not spread and rot. Is a disconnect between young muslims and older generations this needs to be fixed. Over people shouting at mosque doors, which is going to increase the feeling of being aliens and tension.
Don't think it wise to teach people violence against muslims is fine. Jihad has it meaning changed from what it means, it was changed to be used for violence causes.

If you think it wise to let him be killed by mobs which is likely to increase the risk of violence go ahead and think that.

Put him in prison and correct the rot he has caused.


I couldn't agree more. No violence is 'right' and nobody should behave as if they're "the one" who is put on this planet to avenge wrongs they disagree with.

Rotting in prison for his whole life is the way to go. I'd go further and give him a lifelong ban on the internet so he can't spout more hate propaganda and make him work for his keep. I'd also deny him privileges too, I don't know how many victims he's made, one way or another, but the soldier won't ever be able to use privileges. I think that should be across the board for all murderers, they get as many privileges as their victims. There is barely a deterrent in the UK prison service, some people reoffend as soon as they're released so they can be incarcerated again as it's 'home' to them.

We are far too tolerant as a nation.

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I meant to add that I don't trust any politician. If we had a leader who was strong and encouraged people to take responsibility for themselves and their dependents, stopped this culture of blame, shut up the whingers who protest at everything and anything and deport all those who 'hate' Britain, we'd be sorted.
05-31-2013, 03:05 PM #82
ResistTheSun
In Flames Much?
Originally posted by intense99 View Post
I couldn't agree more. No violence is 'right' and nobody should behave as if they're "the one" who is put on this planet to avenge wrongs they disagree with.

Rotting in prison for his whole life is the way to go. I'd go further and give him a lifelong ban on the internet so he can't spout more hate propaganda and make him work for his keep. I'd also deny him privileges too, I don't know how many victims he's made, one way or another, but the soldier won't ever be able to use privileges. I think that should be across the board for all murderers, they get as many privileges as their victims. There is barely a deterrent in the UK prison service, some people reoffend as soon as they're released so they can be incarcerated again as it's 'home' to them.

We are far too tolerant as a nation.

---------- Post added at 02:31 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:28 PM ----------

I meant to add that I don't trust any politician. If we had a leader who was strong and encouraged people to take responsibility for themselves and their dependents, stopped this culture of blame, shut up the whingers who protest at everything and anything and deport all those who 'hate' Britain, we'd be sorted.


Deterrent in the UK prison service does not work!
We tried it and failed all we done so far is create a generation of criminals who get trapped into a life of crime success that!
All the evidence points to lower reoffending rates if you treat people like humans.
Time for serious evidence based policy over soundbites.
Most of EU has better reoffending rates if you look at Nordic countries the rates are even lower. Go look up how they treat the prison system.

We need to encouraged people with the right rules and support to do the right thing. Fixing the core problems not looking outwards for the cause. Time for real evidence based policy not letting people quit they until they fixed the mess they caused.
Real debate and evidence being showed off for people to understand.
Been a couple examples of MPs spinning evidence has it hit the news nope. The first story did that should change if somebody spins the facts they should be forced to explain live on TV why!

Tolerant is a core idea at the heart of this nation. Tolerant of the current culture is not something we should be.

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