Post: God vs Science
02-05-2013, 10:02 PM #1
(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); The thread that was the shining light of the last two debating sections(ugh, really?) that was God vs Fact has been trashed or something(ugh, again) so this thread is here to take the place of that one.

Some extremely basic terminology...

Theist: believes in a god(s).
Deist: believes in a god(s) that created the universe but subsequently abandoned it and/or believes that reason and observation of the natural world are sufficient to determine the existence of god(s).
Atheist: does not believe in a god(s).
Agnostic: does not claim to know if a god exists or believes that such knowledge cannot be known, depending on the definition. Typically when I personally use this label I'm referring to the former.
Gnostic: claims to know one way or the other if a god exists.

There are some more but that's the basics down. I'm an agnostic atheist. What are you and why?

Edit: Thanks to whichever mod/admin butchered the thread's title and poll. The poll now makes no sense whatsoever.
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02-10-2013, 02:35 PM #29
Pricey91
Professor of trollology
Originally posted by CanonChris View Post
Dude, the proof is right infront of you, look at healing in jesus name, raising people from the dead, casting out demons!!! faith in jesus does SOO MUCHSmile


That was the flying spaghetti monster you fool!
02-11-2013, 03:06 AM #30
Agnostic Atheist

But honestly, it's impossible to prove either way. An atheist would ask for proof that he exists and a theist would ask for proof that he doesn't.
02-11-2013, 01:29 PM #31
Originally posted by K5 View Post
Agnostic Atheist

But honestly, it's impossible to prove either way. An atheist would ask for proof that he exists and a theist would ask for proof that he doesn't.


Irrelevant. The burden of proof is with the theist making the positive claim.
02-11-2013, 01:54 PM #32
Pricey91
Professor of trollology
I have an 11 inch penis. That's the truth unless you can prove me wrong...

See how ridiculous that logic is? That is exactly what theists do with the existence of God.
02-11-2013, 10:46 PM #33
Meatwad
Meatman
Well I'm an anti-theist and atheist so it's really glad to see the poll results in the scientific favor unlike the last polls....
Originally posted by Pricey91 View Post
I have an 11 inch penis. That's the truth unless you can prove me wrong...

See how ridiculous that logic is? That is exactly what theists do with the existence of God.

Well the difference is you can't prove a god exists. Your counterargument about your gigantic penis is irrelevant because something like that can be tested by you providing the photographic evidence (you just wouldn't want to.) Clutch is exactly right, you are stating a belief, so you must back it up. Sadly you cannot which is why we still have debates like this. This is how the scientific process begins. A scientist asks a question, then he/she asserts (with the necessary background information) a proposed hypothesis to said question. They then test it, analyze it, revise it, draw conclusions, and communicate the results to their scientific peers to further their hypothesis. You theists start out right, you asked a question, "is their a god?" Sadly you failed to study the necessary information and test your beliefs. You just don't want to, you're like the Muslims in the Middle East who just cover their ears and scream, "NANANANANA can't hear you!" whenever anything anti-Islamic draws their attention. You theists are just too afraid to face the reality that your belief isn't real and is a major waste of time and social progress. You claim there is a god? Fine, back it the fuck up.

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02-12-2013, 12:03 PM #34
Originally posted by Pricey91 View Post
I have an 11 inch penis. That's the truth unless you can prove me wrong...

See how ridiculous that logic is? That is exactly what theists do with the existence of God.


Except it's also an invisible penis with the power to penetrate the solar system and make it feel amazing without leaving any evidence behind.

This analogy is going to weird places.
02-12-2013, 01:31 PM #35
Pricey91
Professor of trollology
Originally posted by Meatwad View Post
Well I'm an anti-theist and atheist so it's really glad to see the poll results in the scientific favor unlike the last polls....

Well the difference is you can't prove a god exists. Your counterargument about your gigantic penis is irrelevant because something like that can be tested by you providing the photographic evidence (you just wouldn't want to.) Clutch is exactly right, you are stating a belief, so you must back it up. Sadly you cannot which is why we still have debates like this. This is how the scientific process begins. A scientist asks a question, then he/she asserts (with the necessary background information) a proposed hypothesis to said question. They then test it, analyze it, revise it, draw conclusions, and communicate the results to their scientific peers to further their hypothesis. You theists start out right, you asked a question, "is their a god?" Sadly you failed to study the necessary information and test your beliefs. You just don't want to, you're like the Muslims in the Middle East who just cover their ears and scream, "NANANANANA can't hear you!" whenever anything anti-Islamic draws their attention. You theists are just too afraid to face the reality that your belief isn't real and is a major waste of time and social progress. You claim there is a god? Fine, back it the fuck up.


I think you've got the wrong end of the stick in regards to my opinion... I'm atheist. Unfortunately you can't view the 1000+ posts in the original thread or you'd soon realise that's the case. Maybe you just need to read my post again.
02-12-2013, 01:35 PM #36
slim355
You talkin to me?
I'm active on a Forum where the average age is about 30.
The God% is near 35% there. Glad to see it is 13% here on NGU where average age is 16.

We are getting smarter brahs. 3 thumbs up.

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- I have communicated with God & just need your obediance so when you die you can have your reward.


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02-12-2013, 03:11 PM #37
Meatwad
Meatman
Originally posted by Pricey91 View Post
I think you've got the wrong end of the stick in regards to my opinion... I'm atheist. Unfortunately you can't view the 1000+ posts in the original thread or you'd soon realise that's the case. Maybe you just need to read my post again.

I am just refuting your claim. My other response was in no way exactly directed towards you, more of directed toward the theists.

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