Post: God vs Science
02-05-2013, 10:02 PM #1
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Some extremely basic terminology...

Theist: believes in a god(s).
Deist: believes in a god(s) that created the universe but subsequently abandoned it and/or believes that reason and observation of the natural world are sufficient to determine the existence of god(s).
Atheist: does not believe in a god(s).
Agnostic: does not claim to know if a god exists or believes that such knowledge cannot be known, depending on the definition. Typically when I personally use this label I'm referring to the former.
Gnostic: claims to know one way or the other if a god exists.

There are some more but that's the basics down. I'm an agnostic atheist. What are you and why?

Edit: Thanks to whichever mod/admin butchered the thread's title and poll. The poll now makes no sense whatsoever.
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02-12-2013, 10:49 PM #38
Originally posted by Clutch
Everything you just mentioned is subject to confirmation bias and an incredible lack of scientific investigation. If faith raised the dead or healed people we'd know and utilise that as a society by now. Casting out demons is honestly just funny. There are deconverts who can recall speaking in tongues and being possessed, and in retrospect they know they were putting it on even if they weren't really aware of it at the time. It's fascinating from a psychological perspective.

Also, if you can heal with faith, why do cancer sufferers with great faith still die? Were they just not believing strongly enough or was it just all part of "God's plan"?


Dude christians HEALED CANCER!, with true faith, you can literally move a mountain!, but why dont you understand that the bigger the problem the more faith you need required.

and people did raise people from the dead, there are people who pray for the dead to be raised, and they come back to life. (this happens more than once) (they would be dead in a hospital, ready to get put in a coffin, and they would just wake up) after a strong enough prayer


all paths lead to the biblical jesus, our hearts all have gods law written inside of each of us. and with jesus faith, you can do many things to give you a "reason" to believe

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why dont you understand, what im saying?

faith in the BIBLICAL jesus, does miracles

jesus said he would leave us, and watch if we would lead ourselves astray or find eternal life, then he would return

the holy ghost is still on the earth, and with faith in the deity of jesus, YOU CAN PERFORM SUPERNATURAL ACTIVITY

this BOOK IS ALIVE, faith in this "spaghetti monster" deity WONT DO A THING, (try it, if you dont believe)

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02-12-2013, 11:58 PM #39
Pricey91
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02-13-2013, 12:06 PM #40
Originally posted by CanonChris View Post
Dude christians HEALED CANCER!, with true faith, you can literally move a mountain!, but why dont you understand that the bigger the problem the more faith you need required.


Prove it. I can't imagine moving a mountain can be too difficult to record.

Originally posted by another user
and people did raise people from the dead, there are people who pray for the dead to be raised, and they come back to life. (this happens more than once) (they would be dead in a hospital, ready to get put in a coffin, and they would just wake up) after a strong enough prayer


This can happen without prayers too. As I said, you're displaying confirmation bias.

Originally posted by another user
all paths lead to the biblical jesus, our hearts all have gods law written inside of each of us. and with jesus faith, you can do many things to give you a "reason" to believe


All unfounded claims.

Originally posted by another user
why dont you understand, what im saying?


We do and we reject it. You seem incapable of comprehending that.

Originally posted by another user
faith in the BIBLICAL jesus, does miracles

jesus said he would leave us, and watch if we would lead ourselves astray or find eternal life, then he would return

the holy ghost is still on the earth, and with faith in the deity of jesus, YOU CAN PERFORM SUPERNATURAL ACTIVITY

this BOOK IS ALIVE, faith in this "spaghetti monster" deity WONT DO A THING, (try it, if you dont believe)


The same nonsense as above. Moving on.
02-13-2013, 04:42 PM #41
dapreacher23
Climbing up the ladder
Originally posted by Pricey91 View Post
Assumptions are the mother of all fuck ups. You've assumed these people even have half a clue what they're talking about. It's fairly safe to say that anyone who told you that doesn't have a clue.

You can't prove a negative- Debate 101. There is an awesome analogy which I'm sure you've came across called Russell's Teapot. Russell says that there is a teapot orbiting the sun somewhere between the Earth and Mars. He then proceeds to ask people to prove that the Teapot isn't there... Obviously you can't prove it isn't there. Hence, you can't prove a negative.


You still never answered the question.

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Originally posted by Pricey91 View Post
I have an 11 inch penis. That's the truth unless you can prove me wrong...

See how ridiculous that logic is? That is exactly what theists do with the existence of God.


Actually we have more proven than you guys on the existence of Jesus. From both Biblical accounts to philosophers/ scientists who dont believe have all shown that Jesus was on the earth. It is whether you can accept in your heart that there is a possiblity that everything you believe in is wrong and you dont want to accept that. Until you show proof of Jesus not to be true then you really have no argument.
02-13-2013, 04:48 PM #42
Keomo
Can’t trickshot me!
Lol im the only one who voted "Other"? Are you serious?

Oh well, i guess we cant all be strictly god/imaginary friends with power/Tech and knowledge above all else.
02-13-2013, 05:40 PM #43
YKM!!
You talkin to me?
I believe there is no god accept Allah

i have question If Jesus is the god why he is like you human Then who create the human ?
02-13-2013, 06:26 PM #44
xByNovaa
Space Ninja
I am a non believer in god because there are no signs that he is real. Just SCIENCE.
02-13-2013, 07:09 PM #45
Pricey91
Professor of trollology
Originally posted by dapreacher23 View Post
You still never answered the question.

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Actually we have more proven than you guys on the existence of Jesus. From both Biblical accounts to philosophers/ scientists who dont believe have all shown that Jesus was on the earth. It is whether you can accept in your heart that there is a possiblity that everything you believe in is wrong and you dont want to accept that. Until you show proof of Jesus not to be true then you really have no argument.


Are you retarded? Do you lick windows in your spare time? Do you try to lick your ear and tap your watch?

It's not possible to disprove a negative. There is no way to do it. If you say there is then you're stupider than I thought. Until you understand that you have no place in any debate. Feel free to fuck off and stop quoting me until you understand that.

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02-13-2013, 09:52 PM #46
Originally posted by Clutch
Prove it. I can't imagine moving a mountain can be too difficult to record.


Okay what do you want me to prove? this cant be explained by words alone

do yu mean you want a demonstrable example of any of this happening?

Google Todd White, Tom Fisher, TB Joshua, its all recorded to your satisfaction, (those names are just a few)

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