(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); The thread that was the shining light of the last two debating sections(ugh, really?) that was God vs Fact has been trashed or something(ugh, again) so this thread is here to take the place of that one.

Some extremely basic terminology...

Theist: believes in a god(s).
Deist: believes in a god(s) that created the universe but subsequently abandoned it and/or believes that reason and observation of the natural world are sufficient to determine the existence of god(s).
Atheist: does not believe in a god(s).
Agnostic: does not claim to know if a god exists or believes that such knowledge cannot be known, depending on the definition. Typically when I personally use this label I'm referring to the former.
Gnostic: claims to know one way or the other if a god exists.

There are some more but that's the basics down. I'm an agnostic atheist. What are you and why?

Edit: Thanks to whichever mod/admin butchered the thread's title and poll. The poll now makes no sense whatsoever.

Exactly my point you cant prove Jesus isnt true knowing that there is overwhelming proof that he is true. So to say there is no God in your heart you accept the fact that there is a God. So instead of flamming these threads with insults like you mostly do prove something worthy of debating like prove Jesus isnt true. Ill make it simple for you wont because you know He is true plain and simple

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Because Jesus became man and died for our sins. Jesus is God....Imagine this since you believe in Allah if Muhammad was the last prophet what miracles did he do? Did he ever use the name of God and what prophecies did he foretell? If any of these fail then Muhammad wouldnt be a prophet.

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Has does science prove there isnt a God?

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In order for you to reject this you would have to know truth. So which one is Jesus is He a liar, a lunatic or God? Feel free to post your facts you have for the one you choose

THERE IS NO EVIDENCE!! None. Zilch. Zero. Nothing. Not a single shred of evidence that anyone who doesn't have a serious agenda would believe.

I honestly feel sorry for you. You'll never know what it's like to be truly free of all that bullshit. Seeing the world for what it really is allows one to experience so much more.

That is truly breathtaking circular logic.


You wind me up so badly it's unreal. How one person can be so brainwashed, it's unbelievable. Surely you've seen the flaws in your logic by now! Honestly, I think you have but are just to proud to admit it. There is no way that you've read through hundreds of posts by the people in this thread and still spout that bullshit with a straight face.

So god can be died right? Then you belive there's 3 god right (Father, Son, Holly Spirit) ? then what happened if they died like Jesus ?
There will not be God if they died
The god can't be died .
1- "what miracles did he do" Check here You must login or register to view this content. There's more
2-"Did he ever use the name of God" Yes he used "In the name of allah"
3-He did alot of prophecies did he foretell and it's now true one of them that the people will have tall buildings in the future

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Only a true prophet could have predicted that... :yawn:

Why it didn't came true ?
It's real right now !
We believe of Jesus that he was prophet.
We have at quran that Jesus is not god
Do you have proof that is Mohammed is not prophet ?

It's not like he predicted the internet is it. You could make the same prediction at any point in time and it would be true.

There's not only one thing he said are true

there's ton of thing he said are now true

Islam not terrorist Religion
Islam Word mean Peace
We Muslim must give some of our money to poor people
We must at our religion give hand to Orphans and animals
There's a lot thing .

That's why i am Muslim .

You seriously must be in over your head. I was once like you not believing in Jesus but I actually did the research myself unlike you. You say there is no proof yet you cannot prove it at all. Like I said before its the heart, because of your pride you cannot accept the fact that you are wrong so you look to insults and anything that would make you feel better. Until you have proof that Jesus doesnt exist you are not worthy of being in this thread.

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It depends what you pick and choose from the quran to believe in because unfortunately if you look at what is going on in the middle east anyone who says they are Christians are being persecuted for their beliefs. That really is peaceful wouldnt you think?

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Doing the prophet test shows muhammad wasnt a prophet matter of fact he quoted verse from the quran that were satanic verses. Any prophet of god wouldnt have made predictions like that

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That prophecy of tall buildings is so vague its like predicting the superbowl. To speak in the name of God you would have to use the name "I am" or YHWH or Jehovah Look at how the old testament prophets spoke yet muhammad didnt speak like this at all. The only proof the quran has for validity is the quran

Bullshitters are out in force today... Challenge accepted.
My point is that anybody could have made that prediction.

I'm sure there are, doesn't prove that Islam is right.
The following quote talks about unbelievers. Sura 4:89 “seize them and slay them wherever you find them: and in any case take no friends or helpers from their ranks.”

Not a terrorist religion huh...
So? Take a look at that quote above again... You could be called the happy fun time club, but if people commit atrocities because of your dogma then it doesn't matter what you're called.

It's about time you had some good ideas.

No real proof of God there at all.



You have no idea how much research I've done. Born and raised Catholic. I spent all my school career in Catholic schools being forced to learn about God. I've spent hundreds of hours trying to understand the Bible and it's contents. Once again not knowing the facts before running your mouth.

You can't show me solid evidence. Not a single thing! You just go off and how it's "In your heart" That's the biggest crock of shit I've ever heard. That doesn't stand up in any other reasonable discourse. It's simply not a valid way of debating.

As always the burden of proof lies with the person making the claim. That is how every hypothesis needs to be tested. If you tried that prove me wrong bullshit in any kind of academia they'd laugh you out of the place.
Almost as peaceful as the crusades...